Wheatsheaf Oxford to become student housing

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sgosdensgosden Frets: 1729
Love or hate the 'sheaf it's a major part of the Oxford music scene. Also one of the only remaining grass roots venues. 

I imagine resistance is futile, but If you've got 2 minutes to object, please do. 



https://public.oxford.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?keyVal=QO7O89MFMNH00&activeTab=summary&fbclid=IwAR05YqDnCKaanggiUXMmrC4o9s7-xxp2dRFy6r2sAucXV2V2-rL65ria_9A
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  • droflufdrofluf Frets: 1043
    Done; moved to Oxford 12 months ago and was looking forward to seeing live music. 
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  • FreebirdFreebird Frets: 5631
    edited February 26
    We no longer have any need for these live music venues now that we've got Zoom! 
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  • sgosdensgosden Frets: 1729
    drofluf said:
    Done; moved to Oxford 12 months ago and was looking forward to seeing live music. 
    Getting back to sheaf for some proper grotty sweaty rock is one of the things I'm most looking forward to after this virus bollocks. 
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  • BrioBrio Frets: 306
    Shit, I was drinking back there in the 70s. Done!
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  • DeadmanDeadman Frets: 3026
    Love the place. They even have The Damned on their jukebox for God's sake. Signed.
    My trading feedback is here 
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  • HeartfeltdawnHeartfeltdawn Frets: 18209
    sgosden said:
    Love or hate the 'sheaf it's a major part of the Oxford music scene. Also one of the only remaining grass roots venues. 

    I imagine resistance is futile, but If you've got 2 minutes to object, please do. 

    Haven't been to Oxford for ages, was there a lot 1999-2000. The Point was fab. What's actually left in Oxford now? 
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  • sgosdensgosden Frets: 1729


    Haven't been to Oxford for ages, was there a lot 1999-2000. The Point was fab. What's actually left in Oxford now? 
    Still quite a few of the little pubs. But the jericho Tavern is the only real "small" venue now. 
    Bullingdon and o2 are still going on cowely road, and the library sometimes puts on some insanity in the basement. 



    Over 1000 objections on the plans last I checked. 
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  • PabcranePabcrane Frets: 193
    sgosden said:


    Haven't been to Oxford for ages, was there a lot 1999-2000. The Point was fab. What's actually left in Oxford now? 
    Still quite a few of the little pubs. But the jericho Tavern is the only real "small" venue now. 
    Bullingdon and o2 are still going on cowely road, and the library sometimes puts on some insanity in the basement. 



    Over 1000 objections on the plans last I checked. 
    A couple of fabulous bands I like used to play there I believe (Ride, Swervedriver & Radiohead)

    What are the chances of this venue being saved? I've seen quite a few go and not be replaced.
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  • stickyfiddlestickyfiddle Frets: 16276
    I can see a huge amount of objections for this. 

    I think I only played the Wheatsheaf once or twice but spent more nights than I can remember upstairs in the Jericho both on and off stage. 

    Is the Port Mahon still around? 


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  • RedlesterRedlester Frets: 518
    Who's behind the development out of interest? A college or a private company? 
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  • stickyfiddlestickyfiddle Frets: 16276
    Glen De Unger of Pavot Property Investment, apparently. Nothing to do with any college as far as I can tell.
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  • RedlesterRedlester Frets: 518
    It’d be better off kept as operating in the public sphere. Fingers crossed on this. 
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  • olafgartenolafgarten Frets: 1520
    Don't they realise that the students would rather have live music than a place to live? 
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  • stickyfiddlestickyfiddle Frets: 16276
    Don't they realise that the students would rather have live music than a place to live? 
    Having seen the rental yields for shitty quality accommodation in Oxford I'm guessing they're far more interested in 8% from 6 students per year than retaining maybe 1000 who visit once or twice a year and spend 10 quid each time, especially after a year of basically no revenue.
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  • FreebirdFreebird Frets: 5631
    edited March 5
    Don't they realise that the students would rather have live music than a place to live? 
    Having seen the rental yields for shitty quality accommodation in Oxford I'm guessing they're far more interested in 8% from 6 students per year than retaining maybe 1000 who visit once or twice a year and spend 10 quid each time, especially after a year of basically no revenue.
    So why buy it in the first place if they knew they would have to pull a cunty move to make any money? If everybody was like that all things of cultural value would be destroyed.
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  • FreebirdFreebird Frets: 5631
    edited March 5
    Duplicate post.
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  • stickyfiddlestickyfiddle Frets: 16276
    Freebird said:
    Don't they realise that the students would rather have live music than a place to live? 
    Having seen the rental yields for shitty quality accommodation in Oxford I'm guessing they're far more interested in 8% from 6 students per year than retaining maybe 1000 who visit once or twice a year and spend 10 quid each time, especially after a year of basically no revenue.
    So why buy it in the first place if they knew they would have to pull a cunty move to make any money? If everybody was like that all things of cultural value would be destroyed.
    Because they’re property developers - it’s what they do. I’m not defending it, but that would be their answer. 

    Im not sure how long they’ve owned the place 
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  • droflufdrofluf Frets: 1043
    It seems resistance wasn't futile; at least according to the local rag

    https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/19227059.planning-application-wheatsheaf-withdrawn/
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  • sgosden said:
    Love or hate the 'sheaf it's a major part of the Oxford music scene. Also one of the only remaining grass roots venues. 

    I imagine resistance is futile, but If you've got 2 minutes to object, please do. 

    What's actually left in Oxford now? 
    Horses.
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  • droflufdrofluf Frets: 1043
    sgosden said:
    Love or hate the 'sheaf it's a major part of the Oxford music scene. Also one of the only remaining grass roots venues. 

    I imagine resistance is futile, but If you've got 2 minutes to object, please do. 

    What's actually left in Oxford now? 
    Horses.
    No we ate the last horse months ago
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  • sgosdensgosden Frets: 1729
    "Dear all,
    I am emailing you because of your recent support for the call in of the above application to planning committee.
    The application sought a change of use of the upper floors to student accommodation as well as other modifications to the building.
    We received more than 1500 objections to the application.
    This application has now been withdrawn by the applicant.
    The application was withdrawn following concerns from officers as we were likely to recommend refusal of the application on the grounds of the loss of community facility, the poor quality of accommodation proposed, harm to a local heritage asset and inadequate consideration of refuse storage.
    Regards
    [name redacted]
    Development Management l Planning Services l Oxford City Council, St. Aldates Chambers, 109-113 St Aldates, Oxford, OX1 1DS"
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  • LebarqueLebarque Frets: 1931
    Great news. I've spent many a sweaty night in the 'Sheaf.
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  • MattBansheeMattBanshee Frets: 1472
    "Poor quality of accomodation proposed"

    I mean, I love the 'sheaf as a gig venue, but fucking hell it would have made student flats that would have made the Delhi slums look palatial.
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