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AllthegearNoideaAllthegearNoidea Frets: 240
edited February 28 in Off Topic
I hear the two services are to merge if allowed by the monopolies and mergers commission. 

Any thoughts if this will mean we have a dual platform HDR available at some point?

I’m about to cancel sky and will need a box to replace it. 

It’s important that the replacement box is intuitive (wife is a Luddite) and fast ( I hate waiting for loading menus, epg, apps etc. 

Any suggestions and thoughts on the above. Last time I bought a box it was a Humax but I see they’ve killed off their app which I used for remote record. Assume one day life will return to normal and I’ll be back to living in hotels again. 

Any help appreciated as always. 
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  • Axe_meisterAxe_meister Frets: 3398
    You can use your sky box.
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  • You can use your sky box.
    To view but as a HDR it will not work. I thought apps also stopped working but it’s been a long time since I didn’t have sky.  Has the app and recording situation changed as a non subscriber?
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  • mrkbmrkb Frets: 2105
    I’m confused by your HDR (High dynamic range?) comment. Do you mean PVR (personal video recorder)?
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  • monquixotemonquixote Frets: 12416
    Hard disk recorder I guess.

    I find it hard to see the point when you can stream stuff with a £20 stick.
    Handsome_Chris said: Like white Nile Rodgers. 
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  • Hard disk recorder I guess.

    I find it hard to see the point when you can stream stuff with a £20 stick.
    Did you miss the wife is a Luddite part. She needs to be able to press record on a programme and view it later. Not open an app and search for the programme. Why suggest streaming for someone who wants to record tv
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  • mrkb said:
    I’m confused by your HDR (High dynamic range?) comment. Do you mean PVR (personal video recorder)?
    You’re correct.  I meant PVR. Thank you
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  • BluesLoverBluesLover Frets: 157
    We use a freesat Humax pvr, it takes a moment or two to boot up, but otherwise works well. I hate streaming catch up programs as you have to sit through endless adverts, whereas with a recording you can skip over them. That alone is enough to justify having one for me.
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  • most TVs can have an external HD/USB stick plugged into them and use the built in Freeview/Freesat to record from.
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  • We haven't used our Freesat recorder for years. With iPlayer etc. not really felt the need to record anything. 

    How many of you still record vs catchup services?

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  • guitartangoguitartango Frets: 592
    We still use the Humax over catchup as you can skip the adverts (hint just press fast forward twice). I believe that the Android app still works for remote recording, although I have not used it for a while. I find Catchup always a pain in the arse and not all programmes appear in the listing.

    We wanted to use our sky box, but they charge you to record and in the end it was cheaper to buy the Humax
    Now there's a look in your eyes, like black holes in the sky.
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  • bobblehatbobblehat Frets: 330
    I've had a Humax Freesat HD box for about 6 years. Works well and never had any issues with it.
    We still record most things with it . Only use catch up services if theres something I've missed as I hate having to sit through the adverts. 

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  • gumbothewiddlergumbothewiddler Frets: 4
    edited March 1
    I’ve got a humax 1tb pvr which is ok. A bit of a slow and clunky interface compared with our old Panasonic pvr. It is also much more sensitive to signal strength than the Panasonic we had and we often get signal interruptions on some had channels that we never used to get. 
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  • darthed1981darthed1981 Frets: 4501
    most TVs can have an external HD/USB stick plugged into them and use the built in Freeview/Freesat to record from.
     Any recent Smart TV with the "Freeview Play" branding on can do this, typically, I'm not sure if it was common before that point.

    Damn good point to bring it up though, it's barely advertised (as almost nobody uses PVRs any more) and it's quite a useful feature.
    We should all probably bear in mind more when posting on here (and I don't exclude myself from this) that the guitar world is very small, the Fretboard is quite well known, and it is not uncommon at all for the subjects of our posts to read them...
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  • ToneControlToneControl Frets: 9143
    Hard disk recorder I guess.

    I find it hard to see the point when you can stream stuff with a £20 stick.
    Did you miss the wife is a Luddite part. She needs to be able to press record on a programme and view it later. Not open an app and search for the programme. Why suggest streaming for someone who wants to record tv
    you can do this on most of the TVs I've bought in the last 5 years
    Just plug in a pendrive or portable hard disk into the USB socket on the TV, and the TV works as a PVR
    I have my living room TV connected to Freesat and Freeview, but currently only use the Freesat to view and record from, just using a pendrive. To be fair, a £200+ PVR can do a better job, but who cares
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  • guitartangoguitartango Frets: 592
    ^
    But you can only record one channel with USB, my Mrs cares! 
    Now there's a look in your eyes, like black holes in the sky.
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  • monquixotemonquixote Frets: 12416
    edited March 1
    Hard disk recorder I guess.

    I find it hard to see the point when you can stream stuff with a £20 stick.
    Did you miss the wife is a Luddite part. She needs to be able to press record on a programme and view it later. Not open an app and search for the programme. Why suggest streaming for someone who wants to record tv

    Because it's much simpler.

    On my TV you can literally say the name of the program you want to watch and it comes on.

    Why would you arse about having to find out when it's on, set up a recording, then find the recording.

    Not to mention making sure you aren't recording two things at once or run out of space.
    Handsome_Chris said: Like white Nile Rodgers. 
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  • guitartangoguitartango Frets: 592
    Would this do you? Looks like you can longer buy a Humax and this have been replaced by Freesat. Some moans as normal, etc not as good as Sky Q etc. Should be able to record two programmes at once and watch the third via the TV. 

    If my Humax dies, I had thought about a raspberry pi with two USB cards attached (not sure if it would work).

    We watched hobbs and.. Last night and skipped through the adverts, don't really want to watch this through catchup TV. 
    Now there's a look in your eyes, like black holes in the sky.
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  • Would this do you? Looks like you can longer buy a Humax and this have been replaced by Freesat. Some moans as normal, etc not as good as Sky Q etc. Should be able to record two programmes at once and watch the third via the TV. 

    If my Humax dies, I had thought about a raspberry pi with two USB cards attached (not sure if it would work).

    We watched hobbs and.. Last night and skipped through the adverts, don't really want to watch this through catchup TV. 
    Thank you. Looks a decent box that would allow recording of programmes that are not available as a stream. 

    I also found this which looks excellent but has a few bugs at the moment allegedly 

    https://uk.humaxdigital.com/product/aura-uhd-android-tv-recorder/
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  • TheBigDipperTheBigDipper Frets: 2401
    Humax Freesat user here. Also an Apple TV user but our Panasonic plasma TV isn't smart. 

    I like the idea that I can use the Humax to watch and record programmes using the satellite dish to receive them. That will still work when Openreach has cut my internet feed. Live TV works without fuss or streaming issues and I can record it as I go and pause/restart/fast forward (if it's previously been paused). The best benefit is recording a programme from commercial TV and then fast forwarding the very annoying ads when watching it back. You just can't do that on streaming services, and the ads on UK TV streaming services are not always the same as the ones they showed when the programme went out live - they're often more annoying! Another benefit is if you want to watch something and you've missed the start. Not all programmes are available immediately on the streaming service. So you can't always "watch from start" until it's finished, sometimes (Match Of The Day) until the next day. With the Humax, if I'm recording it, I can just play the recording as a form of time delay watching the 1st minute as it's recording the 8th.

    So It's got its place in the world. They're just unreliable machines in the longer term - the expected life in our house is between 4 and 6 years, based on our ownership. And the streaming interface is clunkier than Apple TV, with fewer client apps. I think Humax (or maybe it's Freesat) must run a portal for their streaming, because there are sometimes issues with iPlayer on that when my computer or Apple TV is working fine.
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  • duotoneduotone Frets: 576
    We haven't used our Freesat recorder for years. With iPlayer etc. not really felt the need to record anything. 

    How many of you still record vs catchup services?
    I still record things on Sky Arts quite a lot & any time a James Bond is on it gets recorded. Currently have 10 waiting for a rainy day/when the wi-fi dies.
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  • JohnS37JohnS37 Frets: 201
    We have two Manhattan freebies boxes, one upstairs, one down, and they are excellent.  Very intuitive controls and pretty reliable.  Not expensive either.
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  • bcjimbcjim Frets: 20
    most TVs can have an external HD/USB stick plugged into them and use the built in Freeview/Freesat to record from.
    So can I buy a new telly into which I can directly plug the twin feeds from my Freesat dish?

    Jim.
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  • bcjim said:
    most TVs can have an external HD/USB stick plugged into them and use the built in Freeview/Freesat to record from.
    So can I buy a new telly into which I can directly plug the twin feeds from my Freesat dish?

    Jim.
    My own tv has a freeview and freesat tuner. The down side is I cannot record two things at once. And I cannot record one thing and watch another. 
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  • JohnS37 said:
    We have two Manhattan freebies boxes, one upstairs, one down, and they are excellent.  Very intuitive controls and pretty reliable.  Not expensive either.
    The Manhattan t3r looks perfect. Thanks. 
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  • guitartangoguitartango Frets: 592
    bcjim said:
    most TVs can have an external HD/USB stick plugged into them and use the built in Freeview/Freesat to record from.
    So can I buy a new telly into which I can directly plug the twin feeds from my Freesat dish?

    Jim.
    I have the same issue, only one feed for digital, so hence the Humax. We worked out the savings from Sky was around £300 per year. 
    Now there's a look in your eyes, like black holes in the sky.
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  • bobblehatbobblehat Frets: 330
    bcjim said:
    most TVs can have an external HD/USB stick plugged into them and use the built in Freeview/Freesat to record from.
    So can I buy a new telly into which I can directly plug the twin feeds from my Freesat dish?

    Jim.
    Yes you can , Most of Samsungs QLED range have twin Freesat connections. I've looked into this for my self  and as far as I am aware they are the only manufacturer who do this.
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  • exocetexocet Frets: 1292
    bobblehat said:
    bcjim said:
    most TVs can have an external HD/USB stick plugged into them and use the built in Freeview/Freesat to record from.
    So can I buy a new telly into which I can directly plug the twin feeds from my Freesat dish?

    Jim.
    Yes you can , Most of Samsungs QLED range have twin Freesat connections. I've looked into this for my self  and as far as I am aware they are the only manufacturer who do this.
    My 5 year old Samsung has twin Freesat Inputs.
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  • bcjimbcjim Frets: 20

    strumjoughlamps said Yes you can , Most of Samsungs QLED range have twin Freesat connections. I've looked into this for my self  and as far as I am aware they are the only manufacturer who do this.
    Thanks for the info.  I have learned something.

    Jim.
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  • exocetexocet Frets: 1292
    Panasonic also offer twin tuner Freesat on some models.
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  • bobblehatbobblehat Frets: 330
    bcjim said:

    strumjoughlamps said Yes you can , Most of Samsungs QLED range have twin Freesat connections. I've looked into this for my self  and as far as I am aware they are the only manufacturer who do this.
    Thanks for the info.  I have learned something.

    Jim.
    your welcome, you have to look closely at the specs for this. Almost all manufacturers will say something like "Twin Tuners" or " Dual Tuners" but they've only got one freeview (co-ax) and one freesat so no simultaneous recording functionality.

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