Pontins 'undesirable guest list'

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  • marantz1300marantz1300 Frets: 2503
    edited March 4
    My Parents had a pub.
    Travellers were welcome, never had a problem.
    Had more trouble with the local gangs.
     I work in a Bank. Full of Dealers and Rich people.
    They shit on the floor and wipe shit on the walls too.
    loads of obnoxious cunts there.

    In the bank where you work, people shit on the floor and wipe it on the walls?

    I'm down with rich people are obnoxious cunts BTW, just that lacks believability...
    Its true.
    Next time I'll take pictures. 
     The Bank puts up notices when it happens, threatening the sack and offering therapy.
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  • SassafrasSassafras Frets: 22751
    My Parents had a pub.
    Travellers were welcome, never had a problem.
    Had more trouble with the local gangs.
     I work in a Bank. Full of Dealers and Rich people.
    They shit on the floor and wipe shit on the walls too.
    loads of obnoxious cunts there.

    In the bank where you work, people shit on the floor and wipe it on the walls?

    I'm down with rich people are obnoxious cunts BTW, just that lacks believability...
    Its true.
    Next time I'll take pictures. 
     The Bank puts up notices when it happens, threatening the sack and offering therapy.
    What sort of bank is it, something like a sperm-bank?
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  • marantz1300marantz1300 Frets: 2503
    My Parents had a pub.
    Travellers were welcome, never had a problem.
    Had more trouble with the local gangs.
     I work in a Bank. Full of Dealers and Rich people.
    They shit on the floor and wipe shit on the walls too.
    loads of obnoxious cunts there.
    There'd be one less if you quit ;)
    I'd move next door to you.
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  • marantz1300marantz1300 Frets: 2503
    Sassafras said:
    My Parents had a pub.
    Travellers were welcome, never had a problem.
    Had more trouble with the local gangs.
     I work in a Bank. Full of Dealers and Rich people.
    They shit on the floor and wipe shit on the walls too.
    loads of obnoxious cunts there.

    In the bank where you work, people shit on the floor and wipe it on the walls?

    I'm down with rich people are obnoxious cunts BTW, just that lacks believability...
    Its true.
    Next time I'll take pictures. 
     The Bank puts up notices when it happens, threatening the sack and offering therapy.
    What sort of bank is it, something like a sperm-bank?



    Before the internet ,we found Porn books in the disabled toilet ceilings on the dealing floors a few times.
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  • My Parents had a pub.
    Travellers were welcome, never had a problem.
    Had more trouble with the local gangs.
     I work in a Bank. Full of Dealers and Rich people.
    They shit on the floor and wipe shit on the walls too.
    loads of obnoxious cunts there.
    There'd be one less if you quit ;)
    I'd move next door to you.
    There's a carpark across the road. Feel free!
    often you should certainly try to ascertain whether it is required that you caveat something or everything, depending on the substance of the supposed caveatation, so you don't look like a peen.
    TACOMA NARROWS BRIDGE DISASTER
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  • russpmrusspm Frets: 198
    Similar  generalisation as no sports wear or trainers in bars, clubs, restaurants etc. Aimed to stop knob heads getting in and fucking up everyone’s night I guess. 
    Personally I wouldn’t stay at Pontins or Butlins if you paid me!
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  • DefaultMDefaultM Frets: 3464
    My Parents had a pub.
    Travellers were welcome, never had a problem.
    Had more trouble with the local gangs.
     I work in a Bank. Full of Dealers and Rich people.
    They shit on the floor and wipe shit on the walls too.
    loads of obnoxious cunts there.

    In the bank where you work, people shit on the floor and wipe it on the walls?

    I'm down with rich people are obnoxious cunts BTW, just that lacks believability...
    Its true.
    Next time I'll take pictures. 
     The Bank puts up notices when it happens, threatening the sack and offering therapy.
    I worked in finance for 8 years and this is all completely true.
    In the last few years it got to be every other day a new cubicle would be decimated. Shit on the walls, cracked and shitty toilet seats.
    One morning there were turds in both the male and female showers. Actual shit piles like you'd see in the street from a dog. At one point most of the cleaners quit. 
    One guy literally never washed his hands after coming out the cubicle as well. They put up signs explaining how to use a bathroom and still he didn't get it.
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  • ColsCols Frets: 2715
    edited March 4

    Mods, should this be in the P&E section?

    I don't think being a decent human is actually politics, but that's usually where this kind of thing goes, no?
    In Ye Olden Days this would have been a topic for BCD.  Some of the comments in this thread certainly don’t cast the forum in a particularly good light.
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  • marantz1300marantz1300 Frets: 2503
    Me neither
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  • jonnyburgojonnyburgo Frets: 8784
    They close ranks because people don't like them, and people don't like them because they close ranks, so difficult to sort out one way or the other. 
    "OUR TOSSPOT"
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  • UnclePsychosisUnclePsychosis Frets: 8816
    edited March 4
    There's a real "chicken and egg" thing with traveller communities and their behaviour (perceived or otherwise).

    Elements of the traveller community have been treated appalling by society for decades (centuries?) and so funnily enough they don't feel like societies norms and behaviours are worth paying attention to.

    Then, equally enough, elements of the traveller community behave appallingly and so funnily enough elements of wider society don't want them around. 

    Its become a vicious circle of discrimination and bad behaviour. 

    On the "shit on the walls" thing, I've heard of similar behaviour at other white collar workplaces. It's absolutely mental. 
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  • StuckfastStuckfast Frets: 1188
    My Mrs seems to have become the go-to person for traveller funerals round here (she's a vicar). Under normal circumstances the police would close off the entire high street and there would be huge crowds, but by and large the Covid restrictions have been kept to. She's faced some opposition from parishioners who don't want those nasty poor travellers spoiling their nice church, but everyone has been very respectful so far, and she's keen to develop further links with the traveller community. 

    I guess it varies a lot from place to place and as to whether the travellers are predominantly Romany or Irish, settled or nomadic. When we lived in Cambridgeshire there were a lot of Irish travellers who had a bad reputation for trashing parks and so on, and lived very brash lifestyles with blingy cars and so forth. Yet at the same time there were settled travellers in our village who were pillars of the community. And the settled traveller community here in East Yorkshire, which I think is Romany, seem like they lead very hard lives.
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  • GrumpyrockerGrumpyrocker Frets: 1998
    Cols said:

    Mods, should this be in the P&E section?

    I don't think being a decent human is actually politics, but that's usually where this kind of thing goes, no?
    In Ye Olden Days this would have been a topic for BCD.  Some of the comments in this thread certainly don’t cast the forum in a particularly good light.
    I guess at least them being out in the open offers a more honest view for visitors.

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  • russpmrusspm Frets: 198
    Stuckfast said:
    My Mrs seems to have become the go-to person for traveller funerals round here (she's a vicar). Under normal circumstances the police would close off the entire high street and there would be huge crowds, but by and large the Covid restrictions have been kept to. She's faced some opposition from parishioners who don't want those nasty poor travellers spoiling their nice church, but everyone has been very respectful so far, and she's keen to develop further links with the traveller community. 

    I guess it varies a lot from place to place and as to whether the travellers are predominantly Romany or Irish, settled or nomadic. When we lived in Cambridgeshire there were a lot of Irish travellers who had a bad reputation for trashing parks and so on, and lived very brash lifestyles with blingy cars and so forth. Yet at the same time there were settled travellers in our village who were pillars of the community. And the settled traveller community here in East Yorkshire, which I think is Romany, seem like they lead very hard lives.
    There are decent people in all walks of life and all communities, and there is also a minority that spoil it for others. That’s everywhere right. 
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  • I'm just relieved it isn't me bringing the forum down this time!! :lol:

    Cols said:

    Mods, should this be in the P&E section?

    I don't think being a decent human is actually politics, but that's usually where this kind of thing goes, no?
    In Ye Olden Days this would have been a topic for BCD.  Some of the comments in this thread certainly don’t cast the forum in a particularly good light.
    I guess at least them being out in the open offers a more honest view for visitors.
    Cols said:

    Mods, should this be in the P&E section?

    I don't think being a decent human is actually politics, but that's usually where this kind of thing goes, no?
    In Ye Olden Days this would have been a topic for BCD.  Some of the comments in this thread certainly don’t cast the forum in a particularly good light.

    often you should certainly try to ascertain whether it is required that you caveat something or everything, depending on the substance of the supposed caveatation, so you don't look like a peen.
    TACOMA NARROWS BRIDGE DISASTER
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  • Rob1742Rob1742 Frets: 265
    My name is on the list, but to be honest I can be a right pain in the arse, so I don’t really blame them. 
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  • HattigolHattigol Frets: 4929
    Sassafras said:
    My Parents had a pub.
    Travellers were welcome, never had a problem.
    Had more trouble with the local gangs.
     I work in a Bank. Full of Dealers and Rich people.
    They shit on the floor and wipe shit on the walls too.
    loads of obnoxious cunts there.

    In the bank where you work, people shit on the floor and wipe it on the walls?

    I'm down with rich people are obnoxious cunts BTW, just that lacks believability...
    Its true.
    Next time I'll take pictures. 
     The Bank puts up notices when it happens, threatening the sack and offering therapy.
    What sort of bank is it, something like a sperm-bank?
    Just to lighten the tone, I went to the sperm bank myself quite recently. 

    The girl behind the counter said 'Would you like to masturbate in the cup?'

    I said 'I'm good but I'm not sure I'm up to entering competitions yet'...
    "Anybody can play. The note is only 20%. The attitude of the motherf*cker who plays it is  80%" - Miles Davis
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  • martmart Frets: 4311
    Rob1742 said:
    My name is on the list, but to be honest I can be a right pain in the arse, so I don’t really blame them. 
    I'm thinking of changing my name to get on the list so nobody can force me to stay there.
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  • darthed1981darthed1981 Frets: 4497
    My Parents had a pub.
    Travellers were welcome, never had a problem.
    Had more trouble with the local gangs.
     I work in a Bank. Full of Dealers and Rich people.
    They shit on the floor and wipe shit on the walls too.
    loads of obnoxious cunts there.

    In the bank where you work, people shit on the floor and wipe it on the walls?

    I'm down with rich people are obnoxious cunts BTW, just that lacks believability...
    Its true.
    Next time I'll take pictures. 
     The Bank puts up notices when it happens, threatening the sack and offering therapy.

    Threatening the sack to people who are shitting on the floor and wiping it on the wall... it's the staff doing it?

    At least it's not the customers I guess.  I have to admit I'd struggle when the nice kid with an ipad comes up and asks me what i'm there to do to say "shit on the floor and wipe it up the walls" - bet he'd still ask me to put my pin in the little pinsentry thing.
    We should all probably bear in mind more when posting on here (and I don't exclude myself from this) that the guitar world is very small, the Fretboard is quite well known, and it is not uncommon at all for the subjects of our posts to read them...
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  • darthed1981darthed1981 Frets: 4497
    Hattigol said:
    Sassafras said:
    My Parents had a pub.
    Travellers were welcome, never had a problem.
    Had more trouble with the local gangs.
     I work in a Bank. Full of Dealers and Rich people.
    They shit on the floor and wipe shit on the walls too.
    loads of obnoxious cunts there.

    In the bank where you work, people shit on the floor and wipe it on the walls?

    I'm down with rich people are obnoxious cunts BTW, just that lacks believability...
    Its true.
    Next time I'll take pictures. 
     The Bank puts up notices when it happens, threatening the sack and offering therapy.
    What sort of bank is it, something like a sperm-bank?
    Just to lighten the tone, I went to the sperm bank myself quite recently. 

    The girl behind the counter said 'Would you like to masturbate in the cup?'

    I said 'I'm good but I'm not sure I'm up to entering competitions yet'...

    Hehe - the old ones are the best :lol:
    We should all probably bear in mind more when posting on here (and I don't exclude myself from this) that the guitar world is very small, the Fretboard is quite well known, and it is not uncommon at all for the subjects of our posts to read them...
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  • DefaultMDefaultM Frets: 3464
    My Parents had a pub.
    Travellers were welcome, never had a problem.
    Had more trouble with the local gangs.
     I work in a Bank. Full of Dealers and Rich people.
    They shit on the floor and wipe shit on the walls too.
    loads of obnoxious cunts there.

    In the bank where you work, people shit on the floor and wipe it on the walls?

    I'm down with rich people are obnoxious cunts BTW, just that lacks believability...
    Its true.
    Next time I'll take pictures. 
     The Bank puts up notices when it happens, threatening the sack and offering therapy.

    Threatening the sack to people who are shitting on the floor and wiping it on the wall... it's the staff doing it?

    At least it's not the customers I guess.  I have to admit I'd struggle when the nice kid with an ipad comes up and asks me what i'm there to do to say "shit on the floor and wipe it up the walls" - bet he'd still ask me to put my pin in the little pinsentry thing.
    I worked in a head office type set up so no customers. The coordinated simultaneous shower shit attack in particular must have been done by staff. 
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  • HattigolHattigol Frets: 4929
    DefaultM said:
    My Parents had a pub.
    Travellers were welcome, never had a problem.
    Had more trouble with the local gangs.
     I work in a Bank. Full of Dealers and Rich people.
    They shit on the floor and wipe shit on the walls too.
    loads of obnoxious cunts there.

    In the bank where you work, people shit on the floor and wipe it on the walls?

    I'm down with rich people are obnoxious cunts BTW, just that lacks believability...
    Its true.
    Next time I'll take pictures. 
     The Bank puts up notices when it happens, threatening the sack and offering therapy.

    Threatening the sack to people who are shitting on the floor and wiping it on the wall... it's the staff doing it?

    At least it's not the customers I guess.  I have to admit I'd struggle when the nice kid with an ipad comes up and asks me what i'm there to do to say "shit on the floor and wipe it up the walls" - bet he'd still ask me to put my pin in the little pinsentry thing.
    I worked in a head office type set up so no customers. The coordinated simultaneous shower shit attack in particular must have been done by staff. 
    This story has really changed my view and put me right off bankers.
    "Anybody can play. The note is only 20%. The attitude of the motherf*cker who plays it is  80%" - Miles Davis
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  • EricTheWearyEricTheWeary Frets: 11316
    Hattigol said:
    DefaultM said:
    My Parents had a pub.
    Travellers were welcome, never had a problem.
    Had more trouble with the local gangs.
     I work in a Bank. Full of Dealers and Rich people.
    They shit on the floor and wipe shit on the walls too.
    loads of obnoxious cunts there.

    In the bank where you work, people shit on the floor and wipe it on the walls?

    I'm down with rich people are obnoxious cunts BTW, just that lacks believability...
    Its true.
    Next time I'll take pictures. 
     The Bank puts up notices when it happens, threatening the sack and offering therapy.

    Threatening the sack to people who are shitting on the floor and wiping it on the wall... it's the staff doing it?

    At least it's not the customers I guess.  I have to admit I'd struggle when the nice kid with an ipad comes up and asks me what i'm there to do to say "shit on the floor and wipe it up the walls" - bet he'd still ask me to put my pin in the little pinsentry thing.
    I worked in a head office type set up so no customers. The coordinated simultaneous shower shit attack in particular must have been done by staff. 
    This story has really changed my view and put me right off bankers.
    It’s why Pontins have blacklisted people with hyphenated surnames. 
    Inhale away Jackson Jeffrey Jackson. 
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  • prowlaprowla Frets: 3584
    It really is taking the Mick...
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  • DominicDominic Frets: 8680
    Have to say it surprises me that any well-heeled travellers would want to stay at a shithole like Butlins or Pontins ;I would have thought it was well below their standards.
    There are 3 sites very close to where I live ;One of them has no less than 3 Bentley GTC s parked outside the mixture of caravans and prefabs and amongst the brand new AMG Mercs on the other one is a Lambo Aventador.
     My pal has a fairly large industrial concrete company that installs train platforms / garage forecourts etc but when they have small residential jobs they give it to a company who sub-contract to travellers ;a couple of brothers in their mid 20s....they both wear £50k Rolex watches and have £160k Ferraris 
    ........Amazes us ......how can you do that even if all tax was paid .....they live like Kings .
     Last time my late brother was in Dubai there were 3 traveller groups staying at the same Mega 5 star Hotel in the £4000 per night suites ! My brother would chat to them and the bit that amazed him was that one family had a disabled child of about 6 years old that kept running away from his siblings.The father said to my bro " Look him there , would you see the little spastic , see him run now ! "
     Incredible.
    Anyway,you can't get Lobster at Pontins.
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  • vizviz Frets: 7215
    edited March 5
    There’s a load of members from the Irish traveller community that frequent our local church, turning up every week and bloody listening to the service and taking holy communion and then, after the service, bloody standing about and chatting with everyone, then going away again when it’s time to go. 
    "Misogyny ... enforces sexism by punishing those who reject an inferior status for women and rewards those who accept it." - a great quote from Guitartango
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  • StratavariousStratavarious Frets: 1122
    None of this shit at centerparcs... except in the pool... 
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  • dazzajldazzajl Frets: 2165
    ........huge potato headed guys rolling about everywhere......
    I’m not going to wade through this one but this really did make me laugh 
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  • Rob1742Rob1742 Frets: 265
    I live in a market town where we have travellers on either side of the town. If you are to look at them in isolation, there are clearly more social problems within that community more so than the rest of the town community. 

    I will give you a few examples of what happens here:

    1. you go into the local stores, they are the only people who don’t wear masks. It is a common occurrence.

    2. Our local Chinese gives out free prawn crackers and leave bags on the counters. They just come in and take the lot, it’s common and the owner just said you have to just accept it. They don’t even buy any food from him.

    3. Several hundred thousand pounds of cash were found at one of the sites when it was raided, buried under tarmac, stolen vehicles recovered.

    4. One guy drives into town, gets hammered during the day and somehow manages to drive back again. He can hardly walk at times. He got let out of prison a few years ago for stealing money from old ladies, taking them to the bank after doing jobs for them and getting them to withdraw large amounts of cash. 

    5. On the site at the north of us they throw all their rubbish over the hedge, it was so bad the council decided to give them that land rather than clear it up. They now have more land but continue to throw their waste over the fence into a nearby canal.

    6. I recall them carol singing a few years ago and I politely said I didn’t want a carol singing thank you. Their festive response was “ well fuck you mister”

    There are decent people in both sites, I am well aware of that, but the behaviour by a percentage of them leads them to be pigeon holed. Taxi drivers avoid them, restaurants avoid taking bookings and when you see how a percentage of them behave, I can understand why. 

    I always remember a chief constable telling me once that in life you really have to try and avoid those that bring trouble. Cross roads to avoid potential issues, don’t go into areas of concern as in all these cases you have a better chance to avoid potentially harmful situations. In the case of the gypsies around here, I use that advice I was given and so do many people around here. 

    I see how a percentage of them live, I have seen how a percentage of them treat others ( I have many many other examples) so I think it’s prudent to avoid them at the moment.

    I don’t care what anyone else might think, I just care of my families safety and the town in general and if anyone else appears to be a problem, then I will avoid them too. 

    Just another one I remember, walking to my car and a gypsy kid of about 14 trying my car door to get in, whilst walking with his mother. She said nothing, probably quite happy he is doing it. Luckily I locked it. 

    Too many bad stories to ignore where we live 



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  • StratavariousStratavarious Frets: 1122
    Now i gotta watch Brad Pitt in Snatch
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