Modding a Mustang or Duo Sonic to a "Musicmaster"?

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Seems like a fairly simple mod. A hardtail Mustang or Duo Sonic and just get a new pickguard with neck pickup only and voila. Perhaps a 3 saddle old style bridge too if it's a direct replacement.
My question being, is the Squier bullet Mustang worth a look at here?
I had a bullet strat before which I modded. It was as light as a feather though, but played reasonably well for the price. I also think these bullets have enough space under the stock pickguard where a single coil and a new pickguard could work easily.
Are they worth a punt, or worth holding out for a used duo sonic or player series Mustang?
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  • FunkfingersFunkfingers Frets: 7942
    The main worry with a replacement pickguard mod is fastening screw alignment. 

    Both versions of the current MIM Fender Duo-Sonic are routed to accept HS pickups. A P90 should squeeze into the bridge position cavity. A Jazzmaster pickup would not. (Just sayin'.)

    New or used, there will be a significant price difference between Squier Bullet and Fender Player series.

    If you really want a Fender Musicmaster, PM HarrySeven.
    Be seeing you.
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  • WezVWezV Frets: 11509
    a bullet will convert easily, plenty of room under the guard 


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  • Creed_ClicksCreed_Clicks Frets: 504
    @WezV good to know thanks! 
    @Funkfingers I never thought of the screw placement issue
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  • FunkfingersFunkfingers Frets: 7942
    Much depends upon whether you desire a Musicmaster format guitar for its look or its sound.

    If you are committed to the costs of changing at least one pickup and the pickguard, it might be more affordable to simply change the pickups to humbucker-sized single coils.

    Alegree offers his Conflagration neck position.

    Eastwood Airline VVSC pickups are single coils under a humbucker cover. The neck/Rhythm unit does smooth 'n' chimy. The bridge/Treble unit is all sorts of nasty - instant Jack White.
    Be seeing you.
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  • paulnb57paulnb57 Frets: 2058
    edited April 7
    This is a Bullet, I might still have the scratchplate....


    https://i.imgur.com/oVoV2P1.jpg


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  • FunkfingersFunkfingers Frets: 7942
    Sweet. 

    Obvious question. Where did you get the white and pearlescent blue 'plates?
    Be seeing you.
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  • paulnb57paulnb57 Frets: 2058
    edited April 8
    Sweet. 

    Obvious question. Where did you get the white and pearlescent blue 'plates?
    Me?
    The blue one came from Scratch-it
    The white one form earlpilanz on ebay of you message him he will do custom stuff my bullet Mustang ( work in progress) currently has 3 full size humbuckers...

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/usr/earlpilanz


    edit, they both came from the above ebay seller

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  • Creed_ClicksCreed_Clicks Frets: 504
    @Funkfingers going for the look similar to @paulnb57 pic. Wouldn't need to put a period correct pickup in the neck, but a regular/modern output neck pickup. I don't think I'd stick a hotrails or anything like that in there.
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  • paulnb57paulnb57 Frets: 2058
    edited April 8
    I tried a Hotrail in mine, it didnt suit it at all, a decent single coil is fine...

    @Creed_Clicks I have the white scratchplate going spare if you would like it...it fits the Bullet Mustang with Standard bridge...(which with a small amount of fettling is fine)

    https://i.imgur.com/JoNmjsZ.jpg


    Current state of play with my clunker...very much work in progress...

    https://i.imgur.com/oj1F6ft.jpg



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  • Creed_ClicksCreed_Clicks Frets: 504
    @paulnb57 was that bridge a direct drop in ?
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  • paulnb57paulnb57 Frets: 2058
    @paulnb57 was that bridge a direct drop in ?
    No, it's a different shape, but you can modify the standard bridge to three saddle
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  • Creed_ClicksCreed_Clicks Frets: 504
    Wonder would a tele half bridge work....
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  • paulnb57paulnb57 Frets: 2058
    edited April 8
    Wonder would a tele half bridge work....
    It will but the mounting holes dont line up, the half bridge plate only just cover the original holes...so I didnt bother....actually I did but the original holes just showed, so I removed it...

    Easiest option is to mod the original bridge plate, source 3 saddles, drill three intonation screw holes in between the original 6, job done.....works well....Wilkinson Tele saddles work well...

    My Bullet Mustang has had several interations, so much so Ive had to dowel the scratchplate screw holes as repeated removing and refitting saw the holes strip and the screw wouldnt hold, feel free to ask what works and what doesnt....Ive always kept them top loading....
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  • Creed_ClicksCreed_Clicks Frets: 504
    paulnb57 said:
    Wonder would a tele half bridge work....
    It will but the mounting holes dont line up, the half bridge plate only just cover the original holes...so I didnt bother....actually I did but the original holes just showed, so I removed it...

    Easiest option is to mod the original bridge plate, source 3 saddles, drill three intonation screw holes in between the original 6, job done.....works well....
    Good to know. Is it even worth replacing the stock bridge with something of better quality, as in the base metal? Or just replace the saddles? Looks like this could be a nice cheap project.
    No idea what pickup would work well in the neck. Something by Iron Gear etc?
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  • paulnb57paulnb57 Frets: 2058
    edited April 8
    I, personally dont think replacing the bridge plate is worth the expense, I modded mine to a modded Toronado bridge as I saw someone else do it and liked the look, but the original bridge is perfectly good as standard, of you fettle it a bit, some of the intonation screws are a bit long and can foul the wound strings, depends on gauge....frets will more than likely need at least a good polish. It all works ok, but its a cheap platfrom ripe for modding
    Any reasonable quality single coil will work ok, Iron Gear are ok...

    Standard tuners are ok and do the job, but I replaced mine with lockers from Axetec, just cos I can and enjoy modding...
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  • JD50JD50 Frets: 536
    I really.like the look of these cheap Squier bullet Mustangs.... may get one for my daughter. 
    Loads of great mod threads for these all over the internet.
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  • Creed_ClicksCreed_Clicks Frets: 504
    paulnb57 said:
    Wonder would a tele half bridge work....
    It will but the mounting holes dont line up, the half bridge plate only just cover the original holes...so I didnt bother....actually I did but the original holes just showed, so I removed it...

    Easiest option is to mod the original bridge plate, source 3 saddles, drill three intonation screw holes in between the original 6, job done.....works well....Wilkinson Tele saddles work well...

    My Bullet Mustang has had several interations, so much so Ive had to dowel the scratchplate screw holes as repeated removing and refitting saw the holes strip and the screw wouldnt hold, feel free to ask what works and what doesnt....Ive always kept them top loading....
    I would also topload. I had a bullet strat a few years back and was pretty happy with the mods done to it. (Just changed it to a H only guitar at the bridge). I am just convincing myself that as they are so cheap, they have to be rubbish!!
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  • WezVWezV Frets: 11509
    I went to through body stringing as I much prefer it to top loading bridges, but i would only recommend it as a mod of its something you are used to doing.   
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  • paulnb57paulnb57 Frets: 2058

    I would also topload. I had a bullet strat a few years back and was pretty happy with the mods done to it. (Just changed it to a H only guitar at the bridge). I am just convincing myself that as they are so cheap, they have to be rubbish!!
    They are a basic, build down to a cost guitar, but they are not rubbish....
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