Great tracks musically but with appalling lyrics..

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equalsqlequalsql Frets: 4340
edited April 16 in Music
I nominate 'Dog Party' by Scott Henderson. The track is an insane fusion/blues mix with incredible playing by Henderson, but good Lord the lyrics are absolutely abysmal, the cringeworthy sort of thing an 18 year old college jock misogynist might come up with after a pissup.
WTF was he thinking?



Any other good examples of this type of thing out there I wonder?



(pronounced: equal-sequel)   "I suffered for my art.. now it's your turn"
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  • HAL9000HAL9000 Frets: 6938
    edited April 16
    Pretty much anything Lord David of Gilmour has done where Roger Waters didn’t write the lyric.
    I play guitar because I enjoy it rather than because I’m any good at it
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  • StuckfastStuckfast Frets: 1270
    Almost anything by Black Sabbath, especially 'Paranoid'.
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  • McSwaggertyMcSwaggerty Frets: 489
    Everything Bryan Adams..... Average singalong tunes with nursery rhyme lyrics
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  • PhilW1PhilW1 Frets: 673
    Stuckfast said:
    Almost anything by Black Sabbath, especially 'Paranoid'.
    Gotta say have you ever listened to Sabbath?  ;)
    War pigs,
    After Forever
    Lord of this World..etc etc
    Geezers a genius and as for Paranoid ,they’re great lyrics ,you can read so many different things into them or take nothing from them -always a good indicator of good writing  - wish I could throw something together that good as quick as they did that lasts 50years  plus.

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  • StuckfastStuckfast Frets: 1270
    edited April 16
    "Generals gathered in their masses
    Just like witches at black masses"

    Sorry, that's pretty poor...
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  • mrkbmrkb Frets: 2222
    Most Queen songs? I want to ride my bicycle, we will rock you, fat bottom girls, etc....
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  • Philly_QPhilly_Q Frets: 10260
    I've never been that bothered about lyrics so long as they sound right in the context of the song.

    I'm sure if I really racked my brains I'd think of some particularly stupid lyrics but nothing immediately springs to mind because they're all pretty stupid.

    Pop and rock lyrics aren't high art.  If you read them on their own, away from the music, 90% of them are like something a 15 year old would have written for GCSE English.  Except possibly with a lot more sexual content...
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  • NeillNeill Frets: 895
    I always think Elton John's "Saturday Night's Alright for Fighting" has the most crass lyric, even for the early '70's when it was recorded. 

    It's a good tune and deserved better than "I'm a juvenile product of the working class whose best friend floats in the bottom of a glass".  It's the worst example of someone trying to write a hard edged rock & roll song with no understanding of the genre.   
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  • StuckfastStuckfast Frets: 1270
    Yes I think it's really hard to write good rock lyrics. At one end of the scale you have mystical nonsense and at the other end of the scale you have barely literate people stringing the same few cliches together. But there are a few people who have managed to do it well without sounding either dumb or pretentious. Iggy Pop springs to mind.
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  • LastMantraLastMantra Frets: 1675
    edited April 16
    Philly_Q said:
    I've never been that bothered about lyrics so long as they sound right in the context of the song.

    I'm sure if I really racked my brains I'd think of some particularly stupid lyrics but nothing immediately springs to mind because they're all pretty stupid.

    Pop and rock lyrics aren't high art.  If you read them on their own, away from the music, 90% of them are like something a 15 year old would have written for GCSE English.  Except possibly with a lot more sexual content...

    A cheesy lyric can put me right off a tune.


    I left alone my mind was blank 
    I needed time to think to get the memories from my mind. 

    That always bugs me but I love that song anyway.

    Loads of maiden I just can't cope with though. 

    Edit; just loads of metal actually. 

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  • Philly_QPhilly_Q Frets: 10260

    Loads of maiden I just can't cope with though. 

    Edit; just loads of metal actually. 

    Metal is what I mostly listen to.

    With a lot of Maiden songs I imagine Bruce standing in the studio looking at a crumpled lyric sheet Steve has just given him, and making up the vocal melody as he goes along....
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  • artiebearartiebear Frets: 612
    I have likely written some of them. Then again I am financially secure. due to my crap songs. As the great bard said, " better to have loved and lost , than to spend your whole life wanking ".  :)
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  • riverciderrivercider Frets: 362
    I tentatively suggest Extreme.  That's because I made many speculative guitar album purchases in my youth, one of which was Pornograffiti, that eventually let me down.  Nuno is a great player, but I don't actually like the music much....but even those who do must surely admit that lyrically it wasn't exactly poetry....
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  • LebarqueLebarque Frets: 2083
    edited April 17
    I tentatively suggest Extreme.  That's because I made many speculative guitar album purchases in my youth, one of which was Pornograffiti, that eventually let me down.  Nuno is a great player, but I don't actually like the music much....but even those who do must surely admit that lyrically it wasn't exactly poetry....
    If you don't like what you see here...
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  • ColsCols Frets: 3252
    SWLABR by Cream.  I had Disraeli Gears on yesterday, and my son asked why they were singing “The rainbow has a beard” and “But the picture has a moustache”.
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  • mrkbmrkb Frets: 2222
    Lebarque said:
    I tentatively suggest Extreme.  That's because I made many speculative guitar album purchases in my youth, one of which was Pornograffiti, that eventually let me down.  Nuno is a great player, but I don't actually like the music much....but even those who do must surely admit that lyrically it wasn't exactly poetry....
    If you don't like what you see here...
    Remember there’s “more than words” to a great song.....
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  • TeyeplayerTeyeplayer Frets: 1708
    Cols said:
    SWLABR by Cream.  I had Disraeli Gears on yesterday, and my son asked why they were singing “The rainbow has a beard” and “But the picture has a moustache”.
    If your son dropped acid for his breakfast it would suddenly all make sense. ;)
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  • BlueStratBlueStrat Frets: 229
    Most things by oasis. 
    I’d have preferred instrumental versions  
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  • ColsCols Frets: 3252
    Cols said:
    SWLABR by Cream.  I had Disraeli Gears on yesterday, and my son asked why they were singing “The rainbow has a beard” and “But the picture has a moustache”.
    If your son dropped acid for his breakfast it would suddenly all make sense. ;)
    I’ll feed him a party size pack of Tangfastics and check in on him in an hour.
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  • CHRISB50CHRISB50 Frets: 2578
    AC DC - Back in Black.  

    A majority of the lyrics seem to be about fucking something or another. Makes me sound like a prude, which I’m really not, but I find the album difficult to listen to because of it. I like the music but the lyrics are awful. 

    I can't help about the shape I'm in, I can't sing I ain't pretty and my legs are thin

    But don't ask me what I think of you, I might not give the answer that you want me to

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  • mrkbmrkb Frets: 2222
    CHRISB50 said:
    AC DC - Back in Black.  

    A majority of the lyrics seem to be about fucking something or another. Makes me sound like a prude, which I’m really not, but I find the album difficult to listen to because of it. I like the music but the lyrics are awful. 
    Are you not a fan of the classic 15 year old schoolboy favourite lyrics “ giving the dog a bone” and “ let me put my love into you” ? ;)
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  • ColsCols Frets: 3252
    mrkb said:
    CHRISB50 said:
    AC DC - Back in Black.  

    A majority of the lyrics seem to be about fucking something or another. Makes me sound like a prude, which I’m really not, but I find the album difficult to listen to because of it. I like the music but the lyrics are awful. 
    Are you not a fan of the classic 15 year old schoolboy favourite lyrics “ giving the dog a bone” and “ let me put my love into you” ? ;)
    It’s nothing compared to the splendour of Spinal Tap’s “Sex Farm Womsn”.

    Getting out my pitchfork
    Poking your hay.

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  • riverciderrivercider Frets: 362
    BlueStrat said:
    Most things by oasis. 
    I’d have preferred instrumental versions  
    Yeah this always tickled me  -

    Slowly walkin' down the hall
    Faster than a cannonball

    C'mon, which is it, slow or fast? Or am I just missing the point? 


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  • BlueStratBlueStrat Frets: 229
    BlueStrat said:
    Most things by oasis. 
    I’d have preferred instrumental versions  
    Yeah this always tickled me  -

    Slowly walkin' down the hall
    Faster than a cannonball

    C'mon, which is it, slow or fast? Or am I just missing the point? 


    I think I’m missing the point too!
     Though i don’t think this even has a point:

    I know a girl called Elsa
    She's into Alka Seltzer
    She done it with a doctor on a helicopter

    Inane lyrics that a five year old would have been embarrassed to write but nonetheless made millions for them, wish i’d thought of them :D 
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  • equalsqlequalsql Frets: 4340
    I think I’m missing the point too!
     Though i don’t think this even has a point:

    I know a girl called Elsa
    She's into Alka Seltzer
    She done it with a doctor on a helicopter

    Inane lyrics that a five year old would have been embarrassed to write but nonetheless made millions for them, wish i’d thought of them :D 
    There's sort of a tongue in cheek brilliance with those lyrics.
    (pronounced: equal-sequel)   "I suffered for my art.. now it's your turn"
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  • thecolourboxthecolourbox Frets: 6509
    edited April 17
    I'll offer a few that make me cringe

    Birthday and Michelle - The Beatles. Love the hooks and the chord sequences, but honestly. They are not words that go together well

    Anything by Razorlight - I actually quite liked their sound but they're lyrics were utterly atrocious. "When I go out and I come home again", "She asked me her name, I told her what it was"

    Your Song by Elton John. Some utterly bizarre lyrics, he doesn't even see them through half the time to give us a clue what he's on about

    Psycho by Muse. In fact a lot of Muse lyrics since their first couple of albums. I just have to ignore a lot of the vocals and the lyrics as I have grown to enjoy just the music by itself
    "Your mind is just a program and I'm the virus
    I'm changing the station
    I'll improve your thresholds
    I'll turn you into a super drone
    And you will kill on my command
    And I won't be responsible
    I'm gonna make you (three times)
    A fucking psycho
    Your ass belongs to me now"
    I want to be forgotten, and I don't want to be reminded
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  • Philly_QPhilly_Q Frets: 10260
    One of the few "lyricists" I pay attention to is Neil Fallon from Clutch. 

    Again, it's not exactly poetry - not in the Keats and Wordsworth sense, at least.  A lot of it reads like stream of consciousness and he certainly uses words just because they rhyme.  But the choice of words, phrases and references is just brilliant.
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  • LastMantraLastMantra Frets: 1675
    I don't actually mind if lyrics don't make sense. As long as they sound cool.

    I remember the charlatans being asked what their lyrics meant. "eh.....stuff".
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  • EricTheWearyEricTheWeary Frets: 11753
    I have very little time for lyrics. If you want meaningful words go read a book. I like songs not in English, work well for me. 
    They are there as a vehicle for melody and expression. Any meaning is just a bonus. 

    Having said that particularly bad or cliched lyrics are distracting. Modern blues/ blues rock seems particularly guilty around this with songs about mojo hands and cold hearted women and dead end streets and fighting to survive.  The Kenny Wayne Shepherd, Danny Bryant school of random cliches sung over a nice riff. 
    Inhale away Jackson Jeffrey Jackson. 
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  • LitterickLitterick Frets: 170
    Philly_Q said:
    One of the few "lyricists" I pay attention to is Neil Fallon from Clutch. 

    Again, it's not exactly poetry - not in the Keats and Wordsworth sense, at least.  A lot of it reads like stream of consciousness and he certainly uses words just because they rhyme.  But the choice of words, phrases and references is just brilliant.
    Wrap all my things in aluminum. Beams of darkness streak across the sky. Pink rays from the ancient satellite. Every time I look out my window same three dogs looking back at me. Every time I open my windows cranes fly in to terrorize me. The power of the Holy Ghost. The power of the Holy Ghost.
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