New Classic Vibe Esquires

guitarjack66

Is an Esquire a Telecaster model or a design all of its own? I've seen both and can't see much difference between either so I assume an Esquire is a modified Tele? Or am I spectacularly wrong?

Chuffola

Funkfingers said:

Green and orange probably only in shot to illustrate the finish colour options.

They'll all be bought up over here in NI. 

Alterlifeson

guitarjack66 said:

Is an Esquire a Telecaster model or a design all of its own? I've seen both and can't see much difference between either so I assume an Esquire is a modified Tele? Or am I spectacularly wrong?

A telecaster is a modified esquire historically. From memory, the single pickup came first, then a 2 pickup version was introduced but kept the Esquire name. The 2 pickup version then became known as the Broadcaster shortly afterwards. 

That means you do occasionally see what we know as Telecasters labelled as Esquires in the vintage market. 

guitarjack66

Alterlifeson said:

guitarjack66 said:

Is an Esquire a Telecaster model or a design all of its own? I've seen both and can't see much difference between either so I assume an Esquire is a modified Tele? Or am I spectacularly wrong?

A telecaster is a modified esquire historically. From memory, the single pickup came first, then a 2 pickup version was introduced but kept the Esquire name. The 2 pickup version then became known as the Broadcaster shortly afterwards. 

That means you do occasionally see what we know as Telecasters labelled as Esquires in the vintage market. 

I have heard that Broadcasters were the original Teles.Were Esquires before or after the original Broadcasters?

Funkfingers

guitarjack66 said:

I assume an Esquire is a modified Tele

In the context of this Discussion, a Fender Esquire is a Telecaster with the neck pickup omitted and the selector switch reconfigured to extract three distinct sounds from the single pickup.

This originally brought a saving of thirty Dollars, at a time when the entire Telecaster probably cost approximately two hundred.

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Historically, the name Esquire predates Broadcaster, "Nocaster" and Telecaster. 

TTBZ

Shame it doesn't have a neck route but it actually looks really cool without the pickguard! Still want to try one of these.

chrisj1602

Tempted by the Lake Placid Blue I have to say...

TTBZ

Do these Squier FSRs normally sell out on pre order or reckon they'll still be available when they're actually in shops? Just wondering if I'm gonna have to pre-order or if I can wait til they can send it straight away so I'm not left hanging for a few months.

chris78

guitarjack66 said:

Alterlifeson said:

guitarjack66 said:

Is an Esquire a Telecaster model or a design all of its own? I've seen both and can't see much difference between either so I assume an Esquire is a modified Tele? Or am I spectacularly wrong?

A telecaster is a modified esquire historically. From memory, the single pickup came first, then a 2 pickup version was introduced but kept the Esquire name. The 2 pickup version then became known as the Broadcaster shortly afterwards. 

That means you do occasionally see what we know as Telecasters labelled as Esquires in the vintage market. 

I have heard that Broadcasters were the original Teles.Were Esquires before or after the original Broadcasters?

The esquire came before the broadcaster.
Originally the esquire was a single pickup model, a small amount of 2 pickup esquires were then made and the broadcaster followed

xscaramanga

TTBZ said:

Do these Squier FSRs normally sell out on pre order or reckon they'll still be available when they're actually in shops? Just wondering if I'm gonna have to pre-order or if I can wait til they can send it straight away so I'm not left hanging for a few months.

The next batch of purple Classic Vibes is now supposedly four weeks away and they're still taking pre-orders on those, not showing sold out yet. Been advertising them for ages too (I've been on the list for a fair old while, and they'd been on offer for a bit before I found out about them).

Alterlifeson

...annnnnd they are live. Candy Orange and Candy Green.

https://www.andertons.co.uk/cool-stuff/limited-edition/squier-fsr-classic-vibe-60s-custom-double-bound-telecaster-candy-tangerine

absolutpepper

guitarjack66 said:

Alterlifeson said:

guitarjack66 said:

Is an Esquire a Telecaster model or a design all of its own? I've seen both and can't see much difference between either so I assume an Esquire is a modified Tele? Or am I spectacularly wrong?

A telecaster is a modified esquire historically. From memory, the single pickup came first, then a 2 pickup version was introduced but kept the Esquire name. The 2 pickup version then became known as the Broadcaster shortly afterwards. 

That means you do occasionally see what we know as Telecasters labelled as Esquires in the vintage market. 

I have heard that Broadcasters were the original Teles.Were Esquires before or after the original Broadcasters?

Esquire > Broadcaster > Nocaster > Telecaster

Funkfingers

Just to confuse the matter, the very earliest 1950 Esquire was available in a choice of single or dual pickup versions. Initial production had no truss rod.

Broadcasters have an adjustable truss rod. The name change may have been partly to differentiate from the non-reinforced neck examples.

The name Esquire returned in 1951 and, ever since, has applied to a single pickup guitar.

DiscoStu

Would these be good for downtuning to B/C? Will that single pickup and the tone options give a baritone kinda sound?

TTBZ

My strat was ok in C with 12s so a tele should be fine too, I reckon tuning that low should sound great on a tele bridge pickup

UnclePsychosis

Alterlifeson said:

...annnnnd they are live. Candy Orange and Candy Green.

https://www.andertons.co.uk/cool-stuff/limited-edition/squier-fsr-classic-vibe-60s-custom-double-bound-telecaster-candy-tangerine

Oh shit. So much want. 

Alterlifeson

Along with the double bound Esquires and Teles it looks like they have done a bunch of other CV models in cool colours in collaboration with CME:



I'm very tempted by that black thinline.

Funkfingers

DiscoStu said:

Would these be good for downtuning to B/C? Will that single pickup and the tone options give a baritone kinda sound?

Restringing to B Standard or C Standard might require some nut slot widening (but not deepening!) or, possibly,  replacement with something taller.

The change to a wound fourth string would improve the intonation on any three-saddle bridge with straight cut rod sections. By the same token, it will mess up the intonation with most preset compensated saddle sets.

With these aspects sorted, the sound would be kinda Baritone but the string tension could prove kinda wriggly. 

guitargeek62

Alterlifeson said:

I'm very tempted by that black thinline.

Yep, that's all sorts of lush.

Funkfingers

I'm surprised that Anderton's has not arranged for a purple Peter Honoré Telecaster Thinline.