I am tempted to buy one of those cheap Klon/e on eBay

RaymondLin

Like this one, I like the form factor, I like the design.  I saw Tyler (Music is Win)'s comparison between his real Klon and an eBay one, it sounds like 98% the same to me!  I am not even sure this is that far off say, a Centura which is 4x the price.



https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/113706341576?_trkparms=ispr%3D1&hash=item1a796d14c8:g:75oAAOSwyKta6u3b&amdata=enc%3AAQAFAAACgBaobrjLl8XobRIiIML1V4Imu%252Fn%252BzU5L90Z278x5ickkAgU0umhwUTmgTFbE5cu7zRW%252F3Q0lvKLGfZfuvWGlm%252FDj9%252FO3MEkcyPPi46tVplqLwzjddeW%252BWyox%252FIeWt4bCGb%252B%252BhFvO6FERf%252FrBiz9xrIH%252F%252F9IVk7VSuh3r2luABj%252BCI0gWiOJqR56MyzatiLZL757EGPYlo3zQ%252F1ng%252B4qT66erY2pyhdjTIgDIftv%252Bu4V92iqXkk4mqc9V9ZXaQM5mi%252BfB0FjM3M3%252FONzoE7mGzjIpGa8BniN%252FcmtHGSgHvF%252BysmpKEx3vuIDCrzvl%252FAYkOzbuaQ8FJiWhrYem6oXeWwgFhANJcTZTBoXPf%252FimReccnq5nUx%252BTIL5X1XtI%252BNm36KgMQ6YkWA3lkDc3PHhhc8Piq4%252BtrLZXrXHiZJM2aI9CvL1wiqthYaNZqbTnePTi87xGWHFfqpkso6MfSY1dwlpEBHTMx1pCepTLD6TmG%252BWmLAVomxGPR671blP%252Fhglf1VSbMfrFfFHHxLsef5Jpze4itaueXgpT32QWE5hd%252Fx1MJdtcviOc3575w0QAdTZekQfAtUTB%252FUvJkoxIUE3LJLWBK72eVQ8Q%252F06Ij6gWElsxhJDfGKhpg39f0BU5QYIZJuiXFj2Ci4W82mjfzLfsWAbugPkWca3wWgcf4dGIxmZQ3pe51045F9Ngjfa2Klb%252B9cAIUe6qxmGNt5TMj6b5UdZjV3ZSRca3o2vuJ9JceymuXi28vhZR3%252BfEZ2q0MMR5xS3yIxfNd7jbh5vcjTojSMLAVbXGIB65Vi2vSd0UDSBXd27u0qBLKBa3wyRGBiAwhXZp6uwaSzMRJ7HnJGwjI%252FI%253D%7Ccksum%3A11370634157687a9b541ffb3403bb2b278fd3ff6b45c%7Campid%3APL_CLK%7Cclp%3A2334524

Sassafras

I like the way he describes it as 'very rare and hard to come by'.
There are literally thousands on eBay.

Grangousier

Well, rarer and more hard to come by than, say, hydrogen. Or water. It's all relative. 

RaymondLin

Lol, made a cheeky £40 offer and accepted.

AlbertC

And now you wish you’d gone lower? 

personalnadir

If you don’t have an original, how will you know what it’s supposed to sound like? 

UnclePsychosis

Electronics isn't magic, and overdrives tend to be very basic circuits. There's no real reason why a cheap clone shouldn't sound almost identical to the real deal. Yes, there's parts tolerances but that's true of lots of "original" pedals too.

The reason I don't buy copies is the ethics, not the sound. 

RaymondLin

UnclePsychosis said:

Electronics isn't magic, and overdrives tend to be very basic circuits. There's no real reason why a cheap clone shouldn't sound almost identical to the real deal. Yes, there's parts tolerances but that's true of lots of "original" pedals too.

The reason I don't buy copies is the ethics, not the sound. 

True, I would rather get the real thing but with a Klon, the only new one where the money goes to Bill are his once in a year "pay for a friend's problem" eBay auction.  Even the KTR has disappeared with no new stock.  It's impossible to give Bill my money direct.

Then there is everyone else and everyone else works just as hard.

Cirrus

personalnadir said:

If you don’t have an original, how will you know what it’s supposed to sound like? 

UnclePsychosis is right. But the other thing is, it doesn't matter. You'll either like it or not, and it's maybe *better* if it's that simple, vs trying to hold it up to some mythical ideal that itself is utterly confused by the silly market price.

UnclePsychosis

RaymondLin said:

UnclePsychosis said:

Electronics isn't magic, and overdrives tend to be very basic circuits. There's no real reason why a cheap clone shouldn't sound almost identical to the real deal. Yes, there's parts tolerances but that's true of lots of "original" pedals too.

The reason I don't buy copies is the ethics, not the sound. 

True, I would rather get the real thing but with a Klon, the only new one where the money goes to Bill are his once in a year "pay for a friend's problem" eBay auction.  Even the KTR has disappeared with no new stock.  It's impossible to give Bill my money direct.

Then there is everyone else and everyone else works just as hard.

Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't buy a real Klon for exactly the same reasons. Not judging! 

RaymondLin

UnclePsychosis said:

RaymondLin said:

UnclePsychosis said:

Electronics isn't magic, and overdrives tend to be very basic circuits. There's no real reason why a cheap clone shouldn't sound almost identical to the real deal. Yes, there's parts tolerances but that's true of lots of "original" pedals too.

The reason I don't buy copies is the ethics, not the sound. 

True, I would rather get the real thing but with a Klon, the only new one where the money goes to Bill are his once in a year "pay for a friend's problem" eBay auction.  Even the KTR has disappeared with no new stock.  It's impossible to give Bill my money direct.

Then there is everyone else and everyone else works just as hard.

Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't buy a real Klon for exactly the same reasons. Not judging! 

If he goes back to making the original with his old pricing, 100% but at the moment, I just pick the one that visually appeals to me honestly.

personalnadir

Cirrus said:

personalnadir said:

If you don’t have an original, how will you know what it’s supposed to sound like? 

UnclePsychosis is right. But the other thing is, it doesn't matter. You'll either like it or not, and it's maybe *better* if it's that simple, vs trying to hold it up to some mythical ideal that itself is utterly confused by the silly market price.

I agree, but having never played a Klon or KTR myself, I am just aware that given any boost/overdrive pedal in a Klon like box I'd have no way of knowing whether it was a Klon or not. I have no frame of reference, and likely never will.

Get yourself a Demiurge Manhorse instead, probably takes up less space and you get to have a little giggle at the graphic too.

https://funnylittleboxes.co.uk/collections/all-current-stock/products/demiurge-manhorse-transparent-overdrive

Also have Behringer not made a Klon? Given the success of the their Tubescreamer clone it seems a bit mad if they haven't.

merlin

You can always buy my Tumnus Deluxe. Every bit as good, only better....