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Emp_FabEmp_Fab Frets: 20271
One of my colleagues tested positive on Saturday via a lateral flow test.  Now all the contractors he came anywhere near last Friday have been told by NHS T&T we must self-isolate until next week.  We won't get paid for this enforced time off and we all had an LFT done yesterday morning and all of us are negative.  I'm personally going to lose close on a grand.  The guy who tested positive hasn't got any symptoms, his girlfriend who is in intimate contact with him has tested negative.  None of us have any symptoms or positive test results.

Oh well....  at least the weather's nice for a week off!
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  • PC_DavePC_Dave Frets: 3069
    Oh that sucks! If it's any consolation, one of the guys I work with went to visit his girlfriend last week and when he got there she told him she had a cough and temperature etc - he was fuming as she tested positive on the LFT and then a PCR the next morning. He's been with her for 10 days and he has been tested every day and it's come back negative each time, and she's now negative. The joys of vaccination! 
    This week's procrastination forum might be moved to sometime next week.
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  • p90foolp90fool Frets: 22625
    They're throwing figures around like the possibility that ten million people will be at home self isolating for no reason in the next week or two. 

    I'm hoping it'll spark a reverse to when a "case" was someone who was ill, like it was for a few thousand years up until the end of 2019.


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  • mikeyrob73mikeyrob73 Frets: 3459
    I had a false Lat Flow test last week, booked in same day for a PCR test, got Negative the next day. False postive LFT do happen 
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  • crunchmancrunchman Frets: 7714
    edited July 20
    Has he had a PCR test?  If he does that and it comes back negative, it should override the lateral flow if my understanding is correct.
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  • Nick13Nick13 Frets: 591
    Sounds totally reasonable
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  • I was under the impression it is now not a legal requirement to self isolate if you get pinged by the app. If you get a phone call from track and trace then you do have to self isolate.
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  • MusicwolfMusicwolf Frets: 2077
    crunchman said:
    Has he had a PCR test?  If he does that and it comes back negative, it should override the lateral flow if my understanding is correct.
    This is also my understanding, but that's because I'm not a complete and utter fuckwit incapable of following simple guidelines.  A certain Paul Scully MP might have a different interpretation.

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  • fastonebazfastonebaz Frets: 2308
    At the moment I don't think they know why some people nearly die from it and others show no symptoms.  Until they can understand that,  anyone with it must avoid giving it to others. 
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  • S56035S56035 Frets: 181
    I was under the impression it is now not a legal requirement to self isolate if you get pinged by the app. If you get a phone call from track and trace then you do have to self isolate.
    Its always been advice I believe. Only legal if they call you.
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  • danodano Frets: 938
    I don't have the app as it's just utter bollocks now.

    It's becoming a major inconvenience for millions, I suspect the numbers of it being uninstalled are massive.

    My wife who's a doctor dealing with covid patients deleted it as she'd otherwise be getting pinged 24/7
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  • Emp_FabEmp_Fab Frets: 20271
    He's just had the result of the PCR test...........   Positive.

    One of my colleagues just successfully challenged his instruction to isolate based on a number of things - us being outside with masks on when we met Mr Rona-boy, everyone's had the jabs (Rona-boy has only had the first dose), time and distance of contact etc etc.  I've just challenged mine via email.  Hopefully they will agree to let me go back to work.
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  • ColsCols Frets: 3522
    I was under the impression it is now not a legal requirement to self isolate if you get pinged by the app. If you get a phone call from track and trace then you do have to self isolate.
    The actual legislation specifically excludes notification through the App to self isolate, as the user data is anonymised.

    However, any employer who attempted to rely on “it’s not technically a legal requirement” in order to compel pinged staff to come in to work anyway would find themselves in legal hot water under more general H&S legislation.
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  • Nick13Nick13 Frets: 591
    edited July 20
    Emp_Fab said:
    He's just had the result of the PCR test...........   Positive.

    One of my colleagues just successfully challenged his instruction to isolate based on a number of things - us being outside with masks on when we met Mr Rona-boy, everyone's had the jabs (Rona-boy has only had the first dose), time and distance of contact etc etc.  I've just challenged mine via email.  Hopefully they will agree to let me go back to work.

    Surely you can only challenge using a negative test result?

    Otherwise what the fuck is going on?
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  • Emp_FabEmp_Fab Frets: 20271
    The decision to tell someone to isolate is made by an algorithm at the NHS, based on how close you were to the infected person, for how long, inside or outside and whether either of you were wearing masks.  The test & trace team ask all of those questions and feed the answers into the computer.  The computer says no....  you can’t go out to play.

    In my specific example, I think the infected chap was erring on the side of caution as he told them he was closer than 2m to me for 15 minutes.  That didn’t happen.  It was more like 3m for two or three minutes.  That’s what I’m challenging it on.  I don’t know what the other guy’s challenge is based on.
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  • Oh well.

    Believe in the system.

    No questioning now.
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  • SCRelicsGuitarsSCRelicsGuitars Frets: 6242
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    Thank frig we didn’t install that app when we were away on holiday! Mind you, as a self employed sole trader who can isolate from?
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  • poopotpoopot Frets: 6950
    So someone you have been in contact with has tested positive and you’re not going to self isolate because you “think it’s ok as you wasn’t that near him”… even tho’ you’ve been told to isolate!…

    selfish arse!… 
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  • LegionreturnsLegionreturns Frets: 7600
    I got called by T&T a couple of weeks back. 

    Lost 6 days of supply teaching at the special school I'm on a booking with, a 24 hour shift at the children's home I work for on a casual basis, half a day at another school doing music interventions for extreme behaviour kids on a self employed basis, and 9 hours of outreach 1:1 support for kids in care. 

    None of the above work is paid if I don't do it, all of them hugely increase my risk of being in contact with positive cases and therefore being asked to isolate. 

    I did it anyway, because, conversely, I don't want to be a risk to the people I'm supposed to be caring for. Some of them are severely disabled and clinically vulnerable. 

    I should mention that most of my work is little more than minimum wage and 100% insecure. 

    If I can cope with it, then you can. I'd be willing to bet your earnings / savings / resources and security are significantly better than mine (because apparently the government loves what I do, and thinks I deserve claps, but not proper pay or any kind of safety net). 

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  • GandalphGandalph Frets: 501
    It’s really important we all have the app on our phones and self isolate when we’re pinged. 

    Let’s not forget C19 is currently the 24th deadliest illness in the UK.
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  • littlegreenmanlittlegreenman Frets: 4206
    I got pinged last week but only had to self isolate for 5 days. Seems they calculate it from the day the test was done v's the day they upload the result. So by my calculation I was in contact with someone who'd had a positive test but still went out to either a restaurant, or to the pub to watch the England semi! "After" a +ve result, twats! 
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