How big a factor is resonance in what makes a good electric?

thegummy

Has anyone been reading a magazine about gear and been surprised to find out that a part was played on a different guitar than they'd always thought?

guitars4you

it is discussions like this when you realise 3 colour sunburst has not been around for a while

poopot

thegummy said:

poopot said:

thegummy said:

What if an artist was to tape their performance then make copies of they recording to pass on to others on order for them to listen in the comfort of their own homes?

Ahhhh, so you’re saying what you hear on a recording is exactly what was coming out of the amp at the time the recording was made?

Interesting!

I could have sworn I typed my comment in English...

You did… 

and I responded in a very sarcastic way…

these recordings you mention, something like an album maybe? A produced release?

That guitar tone you hear on the record has gone through a mic, you hear the room it was recorded in, its prolly gone into outboard gear etc before
being printed… then it’s mixed in with all the other instruments on the song… massive chunks of its frequencies are cut out to make way for other instruments so everything sounds nice… bit of saturation to make it sparkle…then it’s off to mastering… more eq changes etc etc… then you listen on your setup with the eq set the way you like it…

Most folk (myself included) would be hard pushed to say what guitar was used on any recording let alone what wood it was made of or how resonant it was…

poopot

In fact... Following on from my comment above... lets give it a whirl...

@thegummy here is a little clip of me dicking about earlier today... Ive stripped the audio out of a video... 

You tell me what guitar I used and Ill post the video after you've had a guess...

https://soundcloud.com/user-931985443/comfortablygummy

Go on. Have a crack at it

Offset

thegummy said:

Has anyone been reading a magazine about gear and been surprised to find out that a part was played on a different guitar than they'd always thought?

Of course.  Stairway solo on a Tele.

ICBM

Offset said:

Stairway solo on a Tele.

Another Brick In The Wall solo on a P90 Les Paul.

The One I Love on a Les Paul. (And through a Marshall, too!)

The interesting thing about all these is that when you know what you're listening for, you *can* tell... eg with The One I Love, listen to the last two chords at the very end, which are much too thick-sounding to be a Rickenbacker and a Vox despite what you see in the video.

I've said this before a lot, but the only *really* distinctive electric guitar sound is the Strat in-between positions, because they have a unique comb-filter sound that's determined by the unusual spacing of the pickups - and not by any other aspect of the guitar. Anything else really just sounds like a bridge pickup, a neck pickup, or both together.

Philly_Q

poopot said:

In fact... Following on from my comment above... lets give it a whirl...

@thegummy here is a little clip of me dicking about earlier today... Ive stripped the audio out of a video... 

You tell me what guitar I used and Ill post the video after you've had a guess...

Go on. Have a crack at it

Unmistakably, it's a BC Rich Kerry King Signature Warlock 7-String with EMGs.

poopot

Philly_Q said:

poopot said:

In fact... Following on from my comment above... lets give it a whirl...

@thegummy here is a little clip of me dicking about earlier today... Ive stripped the audio out of a video... 

You tell me what guitar I used and Ill post the video after you've had a guess...

Go on. Have a crack at it

Unmistakably, it's a BC Rich Kerry King Signature Warlock 7-String with EMGs.

Close

thegummy

poopot said:

In fact... Following on from my comment above... lets give it a whirl...

@thegummy here is a little clip of me dicking about earlier today... Ive stripped the audio out of a video... 

You tell me what guitar I used and Ill post the video after you've had a guess...

https://soundcloud.com/user-931985443/comfortablygummy

Go on. Have a crack at it

Will need to be later that I listen but I'll give it a shot. The best I think I'll be able to do is guess whether it's single coil or humbucker but even then I'm not confident.

ICBM

poopot said:

In fact... Following on from my comment above... lets give it a whirl...

@thegummy here is a little clip of me dicking about earlier today... Ive stripped the audio out of a video... 

You tell me what guitar I used and Ill post the video after you've had a guess...

Les Paul Special

Bezzer

Only time it ever possibly matters, in my often wrong opinion, is when playing through a brilliantly clean amp with little to no effects and unaccompanied.

As soon as you add distortion and stick things in the context of a mix of band pickup choice is more important, purely in the mix even that becomes way less significant.

only thing that really matters is “do you like how it plays”

Caveat edit : unless you’re playing an acoustic. Probably has some effect then …

poopot

ICBM said:

poopot said:

In fact... Following on from my comment above... lets give it a whirl...

@thegummy here is a little clip of me dicking about earlier today... Ive stripped the audio out of a video... 

You tell me what guitar I used and Ill post the video after you've had a guess...

Les Paul Special

Oooooo... Close... but no

WiresDreamDisasters

@poopot ;

This is gonna be a trick thing isn't it. Is it a proper full on '69 Strat or something ?? That's my guess.

poopot

WiresDreamDisasters said:

@poopot ;

This is gonna be a trick thing isn't it. Is it a proper full on '69 Strat or something ?? That's my guess.

Getting warmer…

ewal

One thing that doesn't get discussed much is position of pickup along length of string. Yeah we all recognise bridge vs neck pickup tonal variation, however could minor differences in position of a neck pickup have a marked effect on tone? Or can that be easily eliminated by adjusting pickup height?

Bennyboy-UK

I’m begging it it be a plywood bodied marlin sidewinder or low brow encore catalogue guitar from 1991. 

You know the black one that’s about 4/5 size with a humbucker and no scratchplate! 

WezV

ewal said:

One thing that doesn't get discussed much is position of pickup along length of string. Yeah we all recognise bridge vs neck pickup tonal variation, however could minor differences in position of a neck pickup have a marked effect on tone? Or can that be easily eliminated by adjusting pickup height?

Yes, quite significantly when combined with scale length. 

There is quite a big variation on acceptable bridge and neck pickup positions anyway, and it does account for some of the big differences between otherwise comparable models.

Definitely a bigger difference than woods to my ears, but I still pay attention to woods and materials as it matters to me.

Athough If having pickups closer together then it makes sense to have a bigger difference in wind to still get decent variation between positions.

poopot

Bennyboy-UK said:

I’m begging it it be a plywood bodied marlin sidewinder or low brow encore catalogue guitar from 1991. 

You know the black one that’s about 4/5 size with a humbucker and no scratchplate! 

Shall I put everyone out of their misery then?

poopot

@Philly_Q was the closest I think with his guess…

https://youtu.be/sPaYvw0DB5I

Kittyfrisk

poopot said:

@Philly_Q was the closest I think with his guess…

https://youtu.be/sPaYvw0DB5I

How do we know you aren't pulling a Milli Vanilli ?  


Good point, nicely made