Opinions on Earvana compensated nuts please.

FelineGuitars

@Evan ;

we have the 9.5" radius - use the dropdown list on the nut width for the other option

https://felineguitars.com/collections/earvana-compensated-tuning-nut/products/earvana-compensated-nut-fender-shelf-type-9-5-radius

But please feel very welcome to come and see us if you have time ....we're a friendly bunch  and we'd be happy to take a look at what is going on.

I'll be a bit obvious and ask if you've tried again with a fresh set of strings as old strings will intonate sharp and if the strings have been on and off they may not be at their best.

Evan

FelineGuitars said:

@Evan ;

we have the 9.5" radius - use the dropdown list on the nut width for the other option

https://felineguitars.com/collections/earvana-compensated-tuning-nut/products/earvana-compensated-nut-fender-shelf-type-9-5-radius

But please feel very welcome to come and see us if you have time ....we're a friendly bunch  and we'd be happy to take a look at what is going on.

I'll be a bit obvious and ask if you've tried again with a fresh set of strings as old strings will intonate sharp and if the strings have been on and off they may not be at their best.

Right, I’ll go back and have another look. 

Yes, I’ve just put on a fresh set of 10’s and it’s not much different, although I think I’m slowly training myself to lighten my touch, which I think is basically the problem. 

Thanks for the invite - I might take you up on it one day and ogle your wares!

Seziertisch

@FelineGuitars How does the Earvana work with a bridge where each of the saddles is not independently adjustable (like trad Tele saddles or a Mastery)? 

I feel bad tapping you for info on a product you sell when Brexit has made it unfeasible to buy from you :-(

FelineGuitars

Seziertisch said:

@FelineGuitars How does the Earvana work with a bridge where each of the saddles is not independently adjustable (like trad Tele saddles or a Mastery)? 

I feel bad tapping you for info on a product you sell when Brexit has made it unfeasible to buy from you :-(

On tele's we often suggest the Gotoh bridge with the twisting saddles as they can be optimised for perfect intonation

Mastery's are still a slight compromise but actually it still adds a lot of benefit 

And we still ship to EU and Ireland ya know - our website deducts the UK VAT 

https://felineguitars.com/collections/earvana-compensated-tuning-nut

jaymenon

SteveRobinson said:

victorludorum said:

I think the Earvana will only help when playing open strings. As soon as you fret a note it takes the nut out of the equation I think.

No, as the string has a slightly different length when tuned open, it will affect the intonation beyond the nut.

Steve - that's simply but beautifully put.

FelineGuitars

jaymenon said:

SteveRobinson said:

victorludorum said:

I think the Earvana will only help when playing open strings. As soon as you fret a note it takes the nut out of the equation I think.

No, as the string has a slightly different length when tuned open, it will affect the intonation beyond the nut.

Steve - that's simply but beautifully put.

+1 to that 

And it does - you find that the strings are in tune at the first, second, third etc etc up the board

Once installed you reset the intonation at the 12th fret via the bridge like normal and it usually requires reducing the offsets a bit to keep the high end in too.

Seziertisch

FelineGuitars said:

Seziertisch said:

@FelineGuitars How does the Earvana work with a bridge where each of the saddles is not independently adjustable (like trad Tele saddles or a Mastery)? 

I feel bad tapping you for info on a product you sell when Brexit has made it unfeasible to buy from you :-(

And we still ship to EU and Ireland ya know - our website deducts the UK VAT 

https://felineguitars.com/collections/earvana-compensated-tuning-nut

It’s not getting charged UK VAT or even Irish VAT I’m worried about, it’s whatever extra handling/processing charge I’d get hit with at this end on top of the VAT plus the hassle of having to pay for it twice.

 On a higher value item I could accept paying an extra tenner or whatever it is as a handling fee, on lower value stuff it just doesn’t make sense 

Boromedic

Jon has put Earvanas on guitars for me, they sound great!

victorludorum

Seziertisch said:

FelineGuitars said:

Seziertisch said:

@FelineGuitars How does the Earvana work with a bridge where each of the saddles is not independently adjustable (like trad Tele saddles or a Mastery)? 

I feel bad tapping you for info on a product you sell when Brexit has made it unfeasible to buy from you :-(

And we still ship to EU and Ireland ya know - our website deducts the UK VAT 

https://felineguitars.com/collections/earvana-compensated-tuning-nut

It’s not getting charged UK VAT or even Irish VAT I’m worried about, it’s whatever extra handling/processing charge I’d get hit with at this end on top of the VAT plus the hassle of having to pay for it twice.

 On a higher value item I could accept paying an extra tenner or whatever it is as a handling fee, on lower value stuff it just doesn’t make sense 

Why would you pay a handling fee? It'll go in the standard post as it's so small. I don't think letter sized mail is having a hard time unless it's a high value item. I've had a few things sent and not had any issues at all since Brexit.

Seziertisch

victorludorum said:

Seziertisch said:

FelineGuitars said:

Seziertisch said:

@FelineGuitars How does the Earvana work with a bridge where each of the saddles is not independently adjustable (like trad Tele saddles or a Mastery)? 

I feel bad tapping you for info on a product you sell when Brexit has made it unfeasible to buy from you :-(

And we still ship to EU and Ireland ya know - our website deducts the UK VAT 

https://felineguitars.com/collections/earvana-compensated-tuning-nut

It’s not getting charged UK VAT or even Irish VAT I’m worried about, it’s whatever extra handling/processing charge I’d get hit with at this end on top of the VAT plus the hassle of having to pay for it twice.

 On a higher value item I could accept paying an extra tenner or whatever it is as a handling fee, on lower value stuff it just doesn’t make sense 

Why would you pay a handling fee? It'll go in the standard post as it's so small. I don't think letter sized mail is having a hard time unless it's a high value item. I've had a few things sent and not had any issues at all since Brexit.

You’ve been lucky so.

What should happen is that the UK-based seller disapplies UK VAT as the item is leaving the UK and the buyer gets charged local VAT at whatever the rate is in the EU country they are located in on both the value of the item and the shipping costs. For levying these fees the carrier then also charges a handling fee of whatever.

Before July 1st there had been a VAT exemption for lower value items in Ireland but this no longer applies. 

On a smaller item you might well get away with it but it is not guaranteed. I know of someone who bought some books from the UK for about EUR 30 and after paying VAT and handling fee, it ended up costing closer to EUR 50.

Evan

FelineGuitars said:

@Evan ;;;;

we have the 9.5" radius - use the dropdown list on the nut width for the other option

https://felineguitars.com/collections/earvana-compensated-tuning-nut/products/earvana-compensated-nut-fender-shelf-type-9-5-radius

But please feel very welcome to come and see us if you have time ....we're a friendly bunch  and we'd be happy to take a look at what is going on.

I'll be a bit obvious and ask if you've tried again with a fresh set of strings as old strings will intonate sharp and if the strings have been on and off they may not be at their best.

I’m just working myself up to buying one, but could you tell me what the string spacing is (e to e) please? The Allparts neck is a bit on the narrow side and the e strings are a bit close to the edge of the fretboard.

Also, you’ve got white at the moment, but does it come in an off white/ ivory colour, or is the white on your website actually an off white (it’s a roadworn looking guitar, so bright white might be a bit stark)?

skullfunkerry

My main gigging guitar about 10 years ago had one fitted as standard (LTD EC1000). As Jon says above, it kind of felt more musical than my other guitars. It definitely felt like it needed the tuning tweaked a lot less than my other guitars.

FelineGuitars

Evan said:

FelineGuitars said:

@Evan ;;;;

we have the 9.5" radius - use the dropdown list on the nut width for the other option

https://felineguitars.com/collections/earvana-compensated-tuning-nut/products/earvana-compensated-nut-fender-shelf-type-9-5-radius

But please feel very welcome to come and see us if you have time ....we're a friendly bunch  and we'd be happy to take a look at what is going on.

I'll be a bit obvious and ask if you've tried again with a fresh set of strings as old strings will intonate sharp and if the strings have been on and off they may not be at their best.

I’m just working myself up to buying one, but could you tell me what the string spacing is (e to e) please? The Allparts neck is a bit on the narrow side and the e strings are a bit close to the edge of the fretboard.

Also, you’ve got white at the moment, but does it come in an off white/ ivory colour?

Yes the white ones are a slight off-white like Graphtech Tusq, so Ivory is a better description of their colour an it does age nicely too.

therealting

Jon has installed several Earvana nuts on my guitars, and they definitely do help with the classic G chord / E chord tuning problem, and sweeten things up all over the fingerboard. I don’t have them on every guitar, but it is good to have the option and certainly worth looking at if you are having persistent problems with intonation.

Certainly more easily reversible than the true temperament board I have on one of my guitars…

Evan

FelineGuitars said:

Evan said:

FelineGuitars said:

@Evan ;;;;

we have the 9.5" radius - use the dropdown list on the nut width for the other option

https://felineguitars.com/collections/earvana-compensated-tuning-nut/products/earvana-compensated-nut-fender-shelf-type-9-5-radius

But please feel very welcome to come and see us if you have time ....we're a friendly bunch  and we'd be happy to take a look at what is going on.

I'll be a bit obvious and ask if you've tried again with a fresh set of strings as old strings will intonate sharp and if the strings have been on and off they may not be at their best.

I’m just working myself up to buying one, but could you tell me what the string spacing is (e to e) please? The Allparts neck is a bit on the narrow side and the e strings are a bit close to the edge of the fretboard.

Also, you’ve got white at the moment, but does it come in an off white/ ivory colour?

Yes the white ones are a slight off-white like Graphtech Tusq, so Ivory is a better description of their colour an it does age nicely too.

Thanks for the info - I’ve just gone and bought one from your website.

fastonebaz

 I rarely need to tune my feline with its earvana nut. It's eerie. 

lysander

I recently installed one on a les paul like guitar, I'm not sold on it to be honest.
Yes it does make the open chords sound better but the trade off is that some of the first frets are actually now a bit flat ( which is better than being sharp to be fair ), and some of the high notes from the 15th fret onward are VERY sharp, like 12 cents, unless you intonate the 12th fret to be a bit flat ( like 5-6 cent ) for those string so that these higher frets are only about 6 cents sharp.
So really it's a trade off.

pluckbuddy

Evan said:

FelineGuitars said:

Evan said:

FelineGuitars said:

@Evan ;;;;

we have the 9.5" radius - use the dropdown list on the nut width for the other option

https://felineguitars.com/collections/earvana-compensated-tuning-nut/products/earvana-compensated-nut-fender-shelf-type-9-5-radius

But please feel very welcome to come and see us if you have time ....we're a friendly bunch  and we'd be happy to take a look at what is going on.

I'll be a bit obvious and ask if you've tried again with a fresh set of strings as old strings will intonate sharp and if the strings have been on and off they may not be at their best.

I’m just working myself up to buying one, but could you tell me what the string spacing is (e to e) please? The Allparts neck is a bit on the narrow side and the e strings are a bit close to the edge of the fretboard.

Also, you’ve got white at the moment, but does it come in an off white/ ivory colour?

Yes the white ones are a slight off-white like Graphtech Tusq, so Ivory is a better description of their colour an it does age nicely too.

Thanks for the info - I’ve just gone and bought one from your website.

Now change your username to Earvan  

FelineGuitars

lysander said:

I recently installed one on a les paul like guitar, I'm not sold on it to be honest.
Yes it does make the open chords sound better but the trade off is that some of the first frets are actually now a bit flat ( which is better than being sharp to be fair ), and some of the high notes from the 15th fret onward are VERY sharp, like 12 cents, unless you intonate the 12th fret to be a bit flat ( like 5-6 cent ) for those string so that these higher frets are only about 6 cents sharp.
So really it's a trade off.

Something sounds wrong there but without looking it might be hard to diagnose what

Seziertisch

FelineGuitars said:

lysander said:

I recently installed one on a les paul like guitar, I'm not sold on it to be honest.
Yes it does make the open chords sound better but the trade off is that some of the first frets are actually now a bit flat ( which is better than being sharp to be fair ), and some of the high notes from the 15th fret onward are VERY sharp, like 12 cents, unless you intonate the 12th fret to be a bit flat ( like 5-6 cent ) for those string so that these higher frets are only about 6 cents sharp.
So really it's a trade off.

Something sounds wrong there but without looking it might be hard to diagnose what

I think this might be the reason there are such conflicting views on whether the Earvana works or not. 

Most of the users on here have had the nut installed by a pro (Jon), while most of those having issues seem to be self installed or have been done by a tech of an unknown skill level.