Songs to help you recognise chords in a progression - David Bennett Piano [YouTube]

duotone

https://youtu.be/fxNRcKnMF-c

bloodandtears

worth adding the minor version too.. very educational.

duotone

Cheers @bloodandtears ;

Really like these kinds of YouTube videos, where they give song examples. Makes it much easier for me to understand.

EricTheWeary

I’ve gone to post his videos on here before (not sure why not), I haven’t watched these two yet but he’s generally very good. Slightly obsessed with Radiohead and The Beatles but otherwise a reasonably broad range of musical examples usually. 

guitarjack66

He's very clever but his posh, lispy voice can grate a bit after a while. Not his fault of course but its just that we have all got traits that others can only tolerate for a short time when on video. I try to avoid video and photos as I am not suitable for either.

Fuengi

I don't understand why he has a Major V in the Minor key?

If you are playing the Minor key, the iv and v are minor and the III / VI / VII are Major, right?   

viz

 If you are rigidly diatonic, yes, but almost no minor songs have a minor v chord. 95% of them majorise the v to a V - you will have heard that in a lot of music you listen to. 

There are exceptions - Golden Brown, Black Magic Woman, and many others. But the majority have a proper V. 

Why? Because it sounds more effective in the 5-1 resolution. 

Fuengi

viz said:

 If you are rigidly diatonic, yes, but almost no minor songs have a minor v chord. 95% of them majorise the v to a V - you will have heard that in a lot of music you listen to. 

There are exceptions - Golden Brown, Black Magic Woman, and many others. But the majority have a proper V. 

Why? Because it sounds more effective in the 5-1 resolution. 

Just off to burn my Circle of 5ths. 

What is the point of music theory if it's ignored? 

merlin

viz said:

 If you are rigidly diatonic, yes, but almost no minor songs have a minor v chord. 95% of them majorise the v to a V - you will have heard that in a lot of music you listen to. 

There are exceptions - Golden Brown, Black Magic Woman, and many others. But the majority have a proper V. 

Why? Because it sounds more effective in the 5-1 resolution. 

Fuengi said:

viz said:

 If you are rigidly diatonic, yes, but almost no minor songs have a minor v chord. 95% of them majorise the v to a V - you will have heard that in a lot of music you listen to. 

There are exceptions - Golden Brown, Black Magic Woman, and many others. But the majority have a proper V. 

Why? Because it sounds more effective in the 5-1 resolution. 

Just off to burn my Circle of 5ths. 

What is the point of music theory if it's ignored? 

A lot of songs aren't necessarily in a "key" but modal. This chamges a lot. The minor "tonic" you're hearing can be the ii or the vi for example. 

viz

merlin said:

viz said:

 If you are rigidly diatonic, yes, but almost no minor songs have a minor v chord. 95% of them majorise the v to a V - you will have heard that in a lot of music you listen to. 

There are exceptions - Golden Brown, Black Magic Woman, and many others. But the majority have a proper V. 

Why? Because it sounds more effective in the 5-1 resolution. 

Fuengi said:

viz said:

 If you are rigidly diatonic, yes, but almost no minor songs have a minor v chord. 95% of them majorise the v to a V - you will have heard that in a lot of music you listen to. 

There are exceptions - Golden Brown, Black Magic Woman, and many others. But the majority have a proper V. 

Why? Because it sounds more effective in the 5-1 resolution. 

Just off to burn my Circle of 5ths. 

What is the point of music theory if it's ignored? 

A lot of songs aren't necessarily in a "key" but modal. This chamges a lot. The minor "tonic" you're hearing can be the ii or the vi for example. 

Well, “tonic” and “1” are synonyms, where 1 could be major (I) or minor (i). The tonic can never be the ii or the vi, or am I misunderstanding what you’re saying?

viz

Fuengi said:

viz said:

 If you are rigidly diatonic, yes, but almost no minor songs have a minor v chord. 95% of them majorise the v to a V - you will have heard that in a lot of music you listen to. 

There are exceptions - Golden Brown, Black Magic Woman, and many others. But the majority have a proper V. 

Why? Because it sounds more effective in the 5-1 resolution. 

Just off to burn my Circle of 5ths. 

What is the point of music theory if it's ignored? 

Noooo! This is something that’s been acceptable and known for 600 years, they loved the Co5 and appreciated the rule and then adapted it. It’s awesome.