Will you all hate me if....

Emp_Fab

I start another car thread ?

I’m definitely going to move on from the Civic this time, and I’m a lot less fussy now.

All I want is 1) The best ride over bumps 2) 45mpg+, 3) A DSG box 4) A nice interior.  It would be nice if it also didn’t look like a bag of shit.

Feel free to ignore this thread if you’re sick of my car threads 

the_jaffa

Non VRS (for the ride) Octavia diesel. 

Our VRS one averages 40+ mpg around Sheffield which is a crap town for consumption. 

Headphones

I gather the Army's selling a few Challengers...

crunchman

Should we run a sweepstake on when Emp actually buys the new car.  I think I want sometime in 2027.

maltingsaudio

My Subaru Forester diesel gives me 48-50 mpg loads of room and goes almost anywhere and is fun to drive with an exceptional turn of speed. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Dont know what a dsg gearbox is 

Kittyfrisk

Headphones said:

I gather the Army's selling a few Challengers...

Be selling a lot more AJAX's soon... very low mileage, no previous owners, must have own ear defenders.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-57348573

crunchman

There might be some lightly used tanks with one not very careful former owner available in Ukraine.

thumpingrug

Do you have a budget?

I know I keep mentioning it but Citreon makes some cars that have a great ride quality.

The "nice if it doesn't look like a bag of shit" comment is somewhat open to interpretation.  I happen to think that the civic doesn't look that great.

PC_Dave

Buy. A. Fucking. Golf. 

TTony

Emp_Fab said:

All I want is 1) The best ride over bumps 2) 45mpg+, 3) A DSG box 4) A nice interior.  It would be nice if it also didn’t look like a bag of shit.

5) must be a diesel
6) can I have it in blue please - not that shade of blue though
7) under 20,000 miles and under £5000
8) no advisories on any MOT ever
9) or a petrol hybrid
10) or gold - gold is good
11) but if it's gold, it has to have a red interior
12) leather interior
13) the foot pedals can't look worn
14) no-one has ever said anything remotely neutral about any aspect of it, ever, on any forum
15) including the forums that haven't been launched yet
16) what do people think about hydrogen powered cars
17) I don't like the self-dimming mirrors
18) must have an AM radio because I'm old
19) the cup holders must be large enough to fit a dog into
20) can't be French
21) or look French
22) sorry, repeating myself there, I already said it wasn't to look like a bag of shit
23) can you dismantle the dashboard
24) I'd like the same colour paint all over
25) wheels no larger than 16"
26) wheels no smaller than 15"
27) preferably 4 wheels - although will consider 3
28) seats must be comfortable
27) or uncomfortable - I'm quite generously proportioned, so I can't feel them either way
28) No 2 doors - although will consider 3
29) can't have a model name beginning with G.
30) or any combination of letters and numbers involving 5, X & M
31) I'd like a BMW
32) I wouldn't like a BMW
33) nothing Korean
34) or Chinese
35) or Italian
36) or Indian
37) damn, thinking about food again, must stick to cars
38) I've gone off gold now.
39) gone off red interiors too
40) but a red car, with a gold interior would be fine
41) for now
42) I'm not travelling 8hrs by train to go view it
43) not this time
44) still with me - I can do this for hours
45) days
46) what about a Jag?
47) but 45+ mpg, and no diesels


Oh look, a Honda Civic, that ticks none of my boxes, I'll have it.

Philly_Q

I won't hate you.  I don't know anything about cars, so I can just dip in and out of your car threads for light entertainment.

merlin

Emp_Fab said:

Feel free to ignore this thread if you’re sick of my car threats 

Fixed that for you. 

Dominic

maltingsaudio said:

My Subaru Forester diesel gives me 48-50 mpg loads of room and goes almost anywhere and is fun to drive with an exceptional turn of speed. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Dont know what a dsg gearbox is 

Actually a great suggestion and a great vehicle .......certainly not a contender for a beauty competition but there is a certain brutish elegance in it's purposefulness and rugged appearance.
 No DSG options here but if Emp expects to get a car with a good performing DSG system without spending a lot of money then he will be disappointed .......even Porsche / VAG Audi didn't get it right until 2012 onwards in their high end vehicles.

Tannin

No mate. Not a problem. Won't make any difference to the way we see you. None at all. We all hate you already.

(jk )

Tannin

Foresters are as ugly as a hat full or arseholes people's bottoms. I should know, I've done 500,000 kilometres in Foresters and plan to do plenty more. The SG Forester (manufactured 2003-2007) is destined to be an all-time classic. The newer models are tarted-up with more bling, even uglier, not really as bulletproof-practical, but still great cars. I'm sticking with the SG, not least because I flat refuse to buy a car than doesn't have good all-round visibility - and that crosses out practically every car currently in production. (The world has gone bloody mad.)

Foresters are tough. I've taken mine - first the red one, now the newer green one - all over the outback, on-road and off, it's just dealt with every challenge thrown at it. Awesomely good car.

BUT:

(1) it doesn't get anything like 45mpg. Try 30-odd.
(2) That's the standard petrol version of the legendary Subaru boxer. Later on they made a diesel version out of it but that was not a success. Forester and Outback people say it has reliability issues - not horrendous like some cars, it's still a Subaru after all - and isn't a patch on the always-excellent petrol flat 4. Subaru themselves seem to agree - all the latest model Outbacks and Foresters are petrol-only.

mudslide73

DSG and 45mpg is doable with a 1.4 TSI as well as diesel. I'd go 1.4 TSI Octavia Estate for VFM if it was me.

I had a 1.6 TDI Bluemotion Golf that would do a genuine 75mpg+ on my extra urban commute. Only the EGR and DPF stuff stopped me getting another diesel.. 

stickyfiddle

Golf mk7 1.4 TSI. I drove one for & years and it was fantastic every single day of that. 

And the mk8 is garbage in comparison 

Jetsam1

Tannin said:

Foresters are as ugly as a hat full or arseholes people's bottoms. I should know, I've done 500,000 kilometres in Foresters and plan to do plenty more. The SG Forester (manufactured 2003-2007) is destined to be an all-time classic. The newer models are tarted-up with more bling, even uglier, not really as bulletproof-practical, but still great cars. I'm sticking with the SG, not least because I flat refuse to buy a car than doesn't have good all-round visibility - and that crosses out practically every car currently in production. (The world has gone bloody mad.)

Foresters are tough. I've taken mine - first the red one, now the newer green one - all over the outback, on-road and off, it's just dealt with every challenge thrown at it. Awesomely good car.

BUT:

(1) it doesn't get anything like 45mpg. Try 30-odd.
(2) That's the standard petrol version of the legendary Subaru boxer. Later on they made a diesel version out of it but that was not a success. Forester and Outback people say it has reliability issues - not horrendous like some cars, it's still a Subaru after all - and isn't a patch on the always-excellent petrol flat 4. Subaru themselves seem to agree - all the latest model Outbacks and Foresters are petrol-only.

We have 2007-08 Forester 2ltr petrol with 300,000 km currently having a full service and new timing belt and parts fitted. 7000km over the change limit but never stopped running. To be fair it has never actually let us down. And it is used for bee keeping in narrow forest "tracks" and offroad.

We are not mechanically sympathetic to it either. Drinks petrol like a champ so not if you are after mpg certainly, but minimal gubbins in the engine, no turbo and mechanical/manual gerbox and dual range. I would say because of its usage it is "tatty" but just keeps going. In the UK I am sure it would have been scrapped by now................

In general, I would stick with the Honda, as a normal car you probably aren't going to get much better. Having said that my car is a 2008 Accord estate diesal that whilst mechanically sound at 410,000km the way the previous owner abused it is catching up. Somehow will need to change it soon, though 2 years now on the "MOT" so could get away with it for a bit.

Jetsam1

DSG gearboxes have an awful reputation for failing at 3 years old plus. But I don't like automatics anyway, stick to something simple and standard.

DO not buy a Ford with the 1ltr Ecoboost.

CavemanGrogg

Seriously what you want is to get yourself down to Berry Brook, and see what they have that takes your fancy, every car they sell is capable of getting tens of thousands of miles per gallon, though they are not the fastest of cars, but on the plus side are dirt cheap to insure and any idiot can repair them with the nost basic of tools without having to watch hours of YouTube videos or buying a Haynes manual for it, so it will easily out last you and any grand children you may have.

Tannin

Jetsam1 said:

We have 2007-08 Forester 2ltr petrol with 300,000 km currently having a full service and new timing belt and parts fitted. 7000km over the change limit but never stopped running. 

Cheers @Jetsam1 The change interval for the timing belt is flexible. In metric markets Subaru say to change it ever 100,000 kilometres, but in the massive US market, where the punters wouldn't recognise a kilometre if it jumped up and bit them on the ankle, Subaru recommend a new belt every 75,000 miles (120,000 kilometres). So don't beat yourself up if you are a bit over 100,000, you'll be fine. (On the other hand, do not under any circumstances neglect it completely as you'll end up with broken valves and a not-worth-repairing motor car.)

I bought my first one new in 2004 and happily did well over 350,000k in it before an extended family member put her same-but-newer one with a third the mileage up for sale. She was planning to buy something cheaper for the odd times she actually needed a car now that she was home with youngsters instead of working. So we swapped with cash her way. Perfect solution! My old red one went for a good while longer before she bought something new and flash. Meanwhile, I've put a zillion more miles on the  green one. I'll be doing the timing belt on the next service (210,000k) and plan to do at least another 100,000k. Mrs Tannin has a new Outback with all the trimmings and it's rather posh, but I prefer driving the old green bus. All else aside, it's modified with raised suspension for bad tracks and a second battery, underfloor storage, various other useful things. Tough as old boots, goes anywhere. Far more practical in the outback than an Outback!