Western Jam 11th February 2023, Firebird Studios, Bristol

stratman3142

Here's an updated song list.

Me and @Jonathangus down as joint guitars on 'Jailbreak'

@mart added on bass for 'Spread Your Love' and 'Gold On The Ceiling'

@Brocco on lead guitar and @mrkb on rhythm guitar for 'Be Yourself'

We still need a bass role for 'Die Laughing'

'Tush' isn't attracting any more interest so perhaps I'll remove it at the next update. 

**Image removed. See more recent post for the latest update of the song list**

stratman3142

mart said:

If we're still needing bass for spread your love on the ceiling, I can probably manage both. 

Unlikely I'd quite manage the latter at my age

mart

stratman3142 said:

mart said:

If we're still needing bass for spread your love on the ceiling, I can probably manage both. 

Unlikely I'd quite manage the latter at my age

https://youtu.be/50kP4S0peAs

stratman3142

stratman3142 said:

Brocco said:

...more generally, perhaps we could use the drum track idea to include a few more (well known) tracks, as we seem to be a bit light on the number of tunes

Some of the songs in the current list are basically quite simple when stripped down to their bare essentials. If we don't worry too much about the precise details they could be used as a vehicle for jamming with multiple run throughs with different players.

As I said before, I've made charts for the ones I'm playing on, but they might be OTT because I tend to cram in a lot of detail.

I could post 'bare bones' text based chord charts for a few of the simple songs in the list, so we could use those as a basis for jamming and it might save people time in learning stuff.

As I posted earlier, as an example, here's a bare bones (much simplified) description of Gimme Shelter. Is this any use to others? If so, I could do the same for a few others, that could be used as the basis for jamming.

Gimme Shelter (bare bones parts):

There are essentially only two parts, and the bare bones are:

Part 1: 

| C# / / / | B / / / | A / / / | A / B / |

(can play sus4 on C# and B chords)

Part 2: 

| C# / / / |

(can play finger bounce on 6th, "like Status Quo")

(can also throw in the occasional sus4 and bluesy stuff)

Here's the structure of the original, but we can look at each other and wing it, knowing there are only two basic parts.

Gimme Shelter (bare bones structure)

Intro (the guitar intro is based around the Part 1 chords)

Part 1: x 6   

Verse 1

Part 2: x 8  

Chorus 1

Part 1: x 2 

Pre-verse (gtr fills)

Part 2: x 4  

Verse 2

Part 2: x 8  

Chorus 2

Part 1: x 2 

Pre-verse (harmonica on original version)

Part 2: x 8  

Solo over chorus chords

Part 1: x 3 

Chorus 3 (backing vox sing chorus on original)

Part 1: x 3 

Pre-verse (fills)

Part 2: x 4  

Verse 3

Part 2: x 8  

Chorus End (repeats to end cue, gtr fills towards end)

Part 1: x N 

bobblehat

@roberty ;  What are doing regards to payment? Are we just paying the balance on the day?

Brocco

stratman3142 said:

stratman3142 said:

Brocco said:

...more generally, perhaps we could use the drum track idea to include a few more (well known) tracks, as we seem to be a bit light on the number of tunes

Some of the songs in the current list are basically quite simple when stripped down to their bare essentials. If we don't worry too much about the precise details they could be used as a vehicle for jamming with multiple run throughs with different players.

As I said before, I've made charts for the ones I'm playing on, but they might be OTT because I tend to cram in a lot of detail.

I could post 'bare bones' text based chord charts for a few of the simple songs in the list, so we could use those as a basis for jamming and it might save people time in learning stuff.

As I posted earlier, as an example, here's a bare bones (much simplified) description of Gimme Shelter. Is this any use to others? If so, I could do the same for a few others, that could be used as the basis for jamming.

Gimme Shelter (bare bones parts):

There are essentially only two parts, and the bare bones are:

Part 1: 

| C# / / / | B / / / | A / / / | A / B / |

(can play sus4 on C# and B chords)

Part 2: 

| C# / / / |

(can play finger bounce on 6th, "like Status Quo")

(can also throw in the occasional sus4 and bluesy stuff)

Here's the structure of the original, but we can look at each other and wing it, knowing there are only two basic parts.

Gimme Shelter (bare bones structure)

Intro (the guitar intro is based around the Part 1 chords)

Part 1: x 6   

Verse 1

Part 2: x 8  

Chorus 1

Part 1: x 2 

Pre-verse (gtr fills)

Part 2: x 4  

Verse 2

Part 2: x 8  

Chorus 2

Part 1: x 2 

Pre-verse (harmonica on original version)

Part 2: x 8  

Solo over chorus chords

Part 1: x 3 

Chorus 3 (backing vox sing chorus on original)

Part 1: x 3 

Pre-verse (fills)

Part 2: x 4  

Verse 3

Part 2: x 8  

Chorus End (repeats to end cue, gtr fills towards end)

Part 1: x N 

on the basis that this has made me listen to the track, I would say it's a useful basis for some loose jamming structure 

stratman3142

Brocco said:

stratman3142 said:

stratman3142 said:

Brocco said:

...more generally, perhaps we could use the drum track idea to include a few more (well known) tracks, as we seem to be a bit light on the number of tunes

Some of the songs in the current list are basically quite simple when stripped down to their bare essentials. If we don't worry too much about the precise details they could be used as a vehicle for jamming with multiple run throughs with different players.

...

I could post 'bare bones' text based chord charts for a few of the simple songs in the list, so we could use those as a basis for jamming and it might save people time in learning stuff.

As I posted earlier, as an example, here's a bare bones (much simplified) description of Gimme Shelter. Is this any use to others? If so, I could do the same for a few others, that could be used as the basis for jamming.
...

on the basis that this has made me listen to the track, I would say it's a useful basis for some loose jamming structure 

There are a few others that would fall into this category. The ones that immediately spring to mind are:

Roadhouse Blues
Let's Dance (except the verse chord voicings are slightly tricky if you're unfamiliar with them)
Hard To Handle
Keep Your Hands To Yourself 

Brocco

mrkb said:

stratman3142 said:

Brocco said:
...stepping well outside my comfort zone, but if we can find a suitable drum track, I'll give the lead lines a go on Be Yourself

I'll put you down for lead on 'Be Yourself' for now then. But let me know how you feel closer to the date. I would have had a go, but have realised that some of the bass parts I've volunteered for are a bit trickier than I first thought, and need more work than anticipated. 

Im happy to play Rhythm as well as sing on Be Yourself so can fill in basic chords under Broccos playing.

  this is good news! 

Bennyboy-UK

Guys, I'm really sorry about this. I'm officially out. 

I have to fly to Newcastle on the 11th - I’m really disappointed about this and letting you guys down. I was looking forward to this bash.

Neilybob

Bennyboy-UK said:

Guys, I'm really sorry about this. I'm officially out. 

I have to fly to Newcastle on the 11th - I’m really disappointed about this and letting you guys down. I was looking forward to this bash.

Sorry to hear that. I've removed you from confirmed list on page 1. 

stratman3142

Bennyboy-UK said:

Guys, I'm really sorry about this. I'm officially out...

That's a pity. It would have been good to meet you. But no problem. 

The songs that are potentially affected are:

Just What I Needed :
We can still do this one, provided @spark240 is still good to cover the lead guitar on that one.

I Believe In A Thing Called Love :
We can do this one if @Vibetronic can cover the guitar on his own. IIRC I think he said that's OK.

Fight For Your Right :
I can cover the guitar on this one. It's pretty easy, so maybe some others would like to have a go as well.
It's tuned down to Eb standard. Are we doing it in E or Eb? I've decided to bring my PRS S2 tuned to Eb just in case.

Can we persuade @fastonebaz to come along as he previously showed a passing interest, and we can double up on any of the songs he wants to play (shred ) on.

fastonebaz

stratman3142 said:

Bennyboy-UK said:

Guys, I'm really sorry about this. I'm officially out...

That's a pity. It would have been good to meet you. But no problem. 

The songs that are potentially affected are:

Just What I Needed :

We can still do this one, provided @spark240 is still good to cover the lead guitar on that one.

I Believe In A Thing Called Love :

We can do this one if @Vibetronic can cover the guitar on his own. IIRC I think he said that's OK.

Fight For Your Right :

I can cover the guitar on this one. It's pretty easy, so maybe some others would like to have a go as well.

It's tuned down to Eb standard. Are we doing it in E or Eb? I've decided to bring my PRS S2 tuned to Eb just in case.

Can we persuade @fastonebaz to come along as he previously showed a passing interest, and we can double up on any of the songs he wants to play (shred  ) on.

Afraid i can't make this date. Maybe a future one though  

mrkb

What songs dont have a drummer that I will need to get backing drum tracks sorted for? Is the Therapy one still being played?

Jonathangus

mrkb said:

What songs dont have a drummer that I will need to get backing drum tracks sorted for? Is the Therapy one still being played?

Happy to leave it, under the circumstances.  Next time?

stratman3142

I could play bass on Die Laughing (Therapy) if we want to keep it in the list.

Perhaps it would be best for @onlyonebradders to review all of the ones he's down for in my post on 29th Jan. Then let us know if there are any he'd prefer not to do, given his need to recover and avoid taking on too much.

Brocco

mrkb said:

What songs dont have a drummer that I will need to get backing drum tracks sorted for? Is the Therapy one still being played?

Believe the tracks in question are Therapy and Audioslave

Brocco

bobblehat said:

@roberty ;  What are doing regards to payment? Are we just paying the balance on the day?

Personally I would be happy to pay up in advance - @roberty please could you confirm how you prefer us to settle up with you?

spark240

Hey guys, I'm thinking its a trek for 2 songs...my fault totally as I haven't committed any time to this or learning more, happy to pay my share to keep the costs right ..what was the costs per person ?

Brocco

@Jonathangus perhaps you and I could join forces on I Fought The Law?

anyone up for lead on Just What I Needed?

Jonathangus

Brocco said:

@Jonathangus perhaps you and I could join forces on I Fought The Law?

Aye, can do.