The F1 thread

fretmeister

Lewis was mighty in the sprint.

Damn! 

stickyfiddle

One of Lewis’ best drives, I think. He might still win tomorrow if the strategy plays out in his favour

GoldenEraGuitars

I didn’t see it but that’s a kick ass performance from Lewis in the sprint race!

mikeyrob73

Tremendous drive from Hamilton 

Fretwired

fretmeister said:

Lewis was mighty in the sprint.

Damn! 

Understatement. I never saw that coming - I thought he'd be stuck behind cars. That can't be just a new engine. Vettel must be worried if Bottas can stay in front and back into a rampaging Hamilton. That was the Lewis of old.

fretmeister

Horner is whinging again!

trolley

Loved Toto's messgae to Lewis at the end

thumpingrug

sweepy said:

I really do detest this “ Sprint Race” farce, we have 6 of them next year ! thanks  for ruining the sport Liberty 

erm?  do you want to reconsider?

sweepy

thumpingrug said:

sweepy said:

I really do detest this “ Sprint Race” farce, we have 6 of them next year ! thanks  for ruining the sport Liberty 

erm?  do you want to reconsider?

Nope, still dislike the format. DRS train exacerbated by the shorter race and the only driver to make any real gains was Lewis, no surprise there at all

sinbaadi

At least he had to make the passes.  In a full race he'd pit and undercut everyone, this was much more entertaining.

Cols

Verstappen should be feeling distinctly uncomfortable about the race, considering the ease with which Hamilton carved his way through the field and the fact that, even with DRS, he never looked close to being able to set up a pass on Bottas.

stickyfiddle

sweepy said:

thumpingrug said:

sweepy said:

I really do detest this “ Sprint Race” farce, we have 6 of them next year ! thanks  for ruining the sport Liberty 

erm?  do you want to reconsider?

Nope, still dislike the format. DRS train exacerbated by the shorter race and the only driver to make any real gains was Lewis, no surprise there at all

Yep. This was an exciting sprint but only because Lewis started last. Otherwise it was Sainz being a legend on lap 1 and Norris muscling past Leclerc and nothing really else. 

My position is unchanged - make quali set the grid for both races, but have the sprint start in reverse order and give ~half points for the top 10 (or 8). 

GoldenEraGuitars

If Liberty really want to tart things up then I say do a reverse starting grid for the race. At least Mick would get to see what the front of an F1 race looks like (even for just 100 metres)

stickyfiddle

GoldenEraGuitars said:

If Liberty really want to tart things up then I say do a reverse starting grid for the race. At least Mick would get to see what the front of an F1 race looks like (even for just 100 metres)

Trouble with that is it creates a perverse incentive to do badly in the sprint, which is only countered by giving more points for the sprint, which in turn makes the GP look less prestigious. You need every driver to have an incentive to get past the guy ahead of him all the time. 

danishbacon

stickyfiddle said:

GoldenEraGuitars said:

If Liberty really want to tart things up then I say do a reverse starting grid for the race. At least Mick would get to see what the front of an F1 race looks like (even for just 100 metres)

Trouble with that is it creates a perverse incentive to do badly in the sprint, which is only countered by giving more points for the sprint, which in turn makes the GP look less prestigious. You need every driver to have an incentive to get past the guy ahead of him all the time. 

The idea was to have the reverse sprint grid set by championship ranking rather than a Friday quali. 

chillidoggy

The sprint race format is a load of bollocks IMO.

GoldenEraGuitars

stickyfiddle said:

GoldenEraGuitars said:

If Liberty really want to tart things up then I say do a reverse starting grid for the race. At least Mick would get to see what the front of an F1 race looks like (even for just 100 metres)

Trouble with that is it creates a perverse incentive to do badly in the sprint, which is only countered by giving more points for the sprint, which in turn makes the GP look less prestigious. You need every driver to have an incentive to get past the guy ahead of him all the time. 

The incentive would be that for the original qualifying for sprint race and then the sprint race itself they offer points for actually finishing first/fastest. That way, you take points for qualifying and spring success then start the main race in reverse order. 

TimmyO

fretmeister said:

Horner is whinging again!

What about?

chillidoggy

TimmyO said:

fretmeister said:

Horner is whinging again!

What about?

It's immaterial.

Horner whinging is just like him breathing.

stickyfiddle

danishbacon said:

stickyfiddle said:

GoldenEraGuitars said:

If Liberty really want to tart things up then I say do a reverse starting grid for the race. At least Mick would get to see what the front of an F1 race looks like (even for just 100 metres)

Trouble with that is it creates a perverse incentive to do badly in the sprint, which is only countered by giving more points for the sprint, which in turn makes the GP look less prestigious. You need every driver to have an incentive to get past the guy ahead of him all the time. 

The idea was to have the reverse sprint grid set by championship ranking rather than a Friday quali. 

That could also work. You just need something that puts fast guys at the back and doesn't make them want to intentionally go slower in any previous session to ensure a good starting position in a later one. 

chillidoggy said:

The sprint race format is a load of bollocks IMO.

Also this, at least in current form