Tips for a constantly loosening output jack

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SpaceaceukSpaceaceuk Frets: 19
edited January 6 in Guitar
Output jack nut keeps coming loose on my Emily Wolfe semi hollow , I’ve already lost it into the body once and I’m frightened to death of losing it again or damaging the finish if I try and tighten it too much or with scratchy tools
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  • Danny1969Danny1969 Frets: 10967
    Use some thread lock or nick a bit of the wife's nail varnish which will do just as well. 
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  • droflufdrofluf Frets: 4209
    Think you want some form of anti-shake washer. They look like a Japanese throwing star and collapse as you tighten them. That and a dab of threadlock or nail varnish on the nut to stop it coming free. It will effectively glue the nut in place but with a weak bond that you can break when you need to undo the nut. 
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  • SpaceaceukSpaceaceuk Frets: 19
    Ahhh genius I’ll raid my weekend dress up box and get some nail varnish out
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  • JonathangusJonathangus Frets: 5034
    Ahem... output jack.   ;)
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  • SpaceaceukSpaceaceuk Frets: 19
    Haha indeed it is the output jack …… it’s been a long day . Well spotted Jonathan 
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  • prowlaprowla Frets: 5101
    It's an OUTPUT!!!!!

    Maybe felt washers will be kinder to the wood.
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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 74388
    prowla said:

    Maybe felt washers will be kinder to the wood.
    Thats exactly what you don't want - they will allow it to slip. You want a shakeproof/grip washer on the inside where it will bite into the wood and stop the jack rotating at all, which is what loosens it. Then use threadlock/cheap superglue (just a drop)/nail varnish on the thread and tighten the nut - you may need a taper reamer in the jack to hold it while you tighten it.

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  • SpaceaceukSpaceaceuk Frets: 19
    ICBM said:
    prowla said:

    Maybe felt washers will be kinder to the wood.
    Thats exactly what you don't want - they will allow it to slip. You want a shakeproof/grip washer on the inside where it will bite into the wood and stop the jack rotating at all, which is what loosens it. Then use threadlock/cheap superglue (just a drop)/nail varnish on the thread and tighten the nut - you may need a taper reamer in the jack to hold it while you tighten it.
    Great advice thank you
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  • PetepassionPetepassion Frets: 1407
    When tightening you can use a raw plug and screw in the jack to lock in place while you tighten the nut
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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 74388
    When tightening you can use a rawlplug and screw in the jack to lock in place while you tighten the nut
    Great idea - probably more likely to be available to the average non-professional than a taper reamer. (Spelling corrected in case anyone didn't understand that bit ;).)

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  • SpaceaceukSpaceaceuk Frets: 19
    When tightening you can use a raw plug and screw in the jack to lock in place while you tighten the nut
    Interesting not heard that one before I’ll have a go  thank you 
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  • OilCityPickupsOilCityPickups Frets: 11843
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    Don't get a taper reamer mixed up with a Tapir reamer ... very different ballgame.



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  • SpaceaceukSpaceaceuk Frets: 19
    Don't get a taper reamer mixed up with a Tapir reamer ... very different ballgame.



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  • KittyfriskKittyfrisk Frets: 20517
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  • PetepassionPetepassion Frets: 1407
    ICBM said:
    When tightening you can use a rawlplug and screw in the jack to lock in place while you tighten the nut
    Great idea - probably more likely to be available to the average non-professional than a taper reamer. (Spelling corrected in case anyone didn't understand that bit ;).)
    Ah, thank you :)
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  • BillDLBillDL Frets: 8957
    edited January 7
    That's a really useful tip @Petepassion; I've used all kind of improvised methods and modified everyday tools to do the job, but that one is by far the simplest and most readily available way I hadn't thought about.
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  • PetepassionPetepassion Frets: 1407
    BillDL said:
    That's a really useful tip @Petepassion; I've used all kind of improvised methods and modified everyday tools to do the job, but that one is by far the simplest and most readily available way I hadn't thought about.
    Yeah, great idea, wish it was mine, can’t remember where I heard this now.
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  • PALPAL Frets: 595
    There is an inexpensive tightening tool you can buy  that will help to do this. If you just keep tightening the nut there is the possibility of the wiring on the jack socket itself twisting and eventually breaking one of the connections or shorting out !
    Also once it is tightened a very small dab of Glue will help.
    It's also worth using and angle jack for your guitar this will have less stress on the socket and more importantly the top of 
    your guitar top. Hope this helps.

    Here is the tool you need.  https://www.armstrongmusic.co.uk/accessories-c14/miscellaneous-accessories-c15/pro-rockgear-bullet-guitar-jack-tightener-p2680
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  • NelsonPNelsonP Frets: 3454
    PAL said:
    There is an inexpensive tightening tool you can buy  that will help to do this. If you just keep tightening the nut there is the possibility of the wiring on the jack socket itself twisting and eventually breaking one of the connections or shorting out !
    Also once it is tightened a very small dab of Glue will help.
    It's also worth using and angle jack for your guitar this will have less stress on the socket and more importantly the top of 
    your guitar top. Hope this helps.

    Here is the tool you need.  https://www.armstrongmusic.co.uk/accessories-c14/miscellaneous-accessories-c15/pro-rockgear-bullet-guitar-jack-tightener-p2680
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