Grace Bowers

OilCityPickups

And the great thing about threads like this is they allow one to expand ones ignore list ... thanks chaps :-)

jonnyburgo

She's great and will only get better.

Bigsby

OilCityPickups said:

And the great thing about threads like this is they allow one to expand ones ignore list ... thanks chaps :-)

Maybe you wouldn't need an ignore list if you didn't go around using such brutal phrases as "sour old men ripping the f--k out of a seventeen year old girl" and then utterly failing to justify it when called out. 

OilCityPickups

jonnyburgo said:

She's great and will only get better.

https://youtu.be/U1P8KnZSEtw

it's great that she is getting the breaks and the exposure - seventeen is an exciting age to be ... I just about remember it :-)

DaiCapp

her first single has a really cool vibe to it... she's a very talented musician with some great licks...

ToneControl

She can play very well, seems like a nice person. Her playing and style should improve further.

Good luck to her. If she was my daughter, I'd try to make sure she knew that most people who play very well struggle to make a living from music. 

In her case, I'd give it a go as a full-time job, she seems to be getting somewhere. Especially being based around Nashville.

However, for most really good players, I'd recommend having a steady day job, and doing the music on the side. That way you only need to play the stuff you want, when you want.
The most famous example that I know is Tal Farlow, who mostly worked as a sign painter.

I saw this documentary in the 80s, and it influenced my attitude to music - to approach it as a pleasant hobby.

OilCityPickups

ToneControl said:

She can play very well, seems like a nice person. Her playing and style should improve further.

Good luck to her. If she was my daughter, I'd try to make sure she knew that most people who play very well struggle to make a living from music. 

In her case, I'd give it a go as a full-time job, she seems to be getting somewhere. Especially being based around Nashville.

However, for most really good players, I'd recommend having a steady day job, and doing the music on the side. That way you only need to play the stuff you want, when you want.
The most famous example that I know is Tal Farlow, who mostly worked as a sign painter.

I saw this documentary in the 80s, and it influenced my attitude to music - to approach it as a pleasant hobby.

A good argument for a universal basic income so that art still gets to thrive in a society where full employment is going to get harder and harder to maintain in the face of automation and AI.  

InactiveX

She is cool as fuck.

ToneControl

OilCityPickups said:

ToneControl said:

She can play very well, seems like a nice person. Her playing and style should improve further.

Good luck to her. If she was my daughter, I'd try to make sure she knew that most people who play very well struggle to make a living from music. 

In her case, I'd give it a go as a full-time job, she seems to be getting somewhere. Especially being based around Nashville.

However, for most really good players, I'd recommend having a steady day job, and doing the music on the side. That way you only need to play the stuff you want, when you want.
The most famous example that I know is Tal Farlow, who mostly worked as a sign painter.

I saw this documentary in the 80s, and it influenced my attitude to music - to approach it as a pleasant hobby.

A good argument for a universal basic income so that art still gets to thrive in a society where full employment is going to get harder and harder to maintain in the face of automation and AI.  

yep, not sure why I got a LOL

ToneControl

Seriously, there are a lot of big-name artists out there, condemned to perform old songs they would prefer to leave behind, because it's their day job.

100+ years ago, most musicians played as a sideline, it seems far more workable to me - we had this blip where mass-media and recording/transmission technologies plus a studio/label system made big stars but excluded most musicians.
I vote for ending this "become a big star or you've failed" attitude. Good luck to anyone, but the main objective with music should be personal enjoyment.

Certainly a universal basic income could unlock a lot of new art. 

Bigsby

ToneControl said:

Certainly a universal basic income could unlock a lot of new art. 

True, but which will come first, universal basic income, or AI that can generate music that can surpass anything humans are making (in a variety of ways). And what happens to the human relationship with music (creation and consumption) at this point? It's a really interesting topic in its own right and one I've been wondering about a lot lately, but getting a bit off-topic here.

ToneControl

Bigsby said:

ToneControl said:

Certainly a universal basic income could unlock a lot of new art. 

True, but which will come first, universal basic income, or AI that can generate music that can surpass anything humans are making (in a variety of ways). And what happens to the human relationship with music (creation and consumption) at this point? It's a really interesting topic in its own right and one I've been wondering about a lot lately, but getting a bit off-topic here.

yes, will AI manage that? I like to doubt that, but have no idea

MagicPigDetective

https://youtu.be/EEz-Czt69IU?si=u-9O_EspRhtnXqHr

ToneControl

MagicPigDetective said:

https://youtu.be/EEz-Czt69IU?si=u-9O_EspRhtnXqHr

yep, we can't all be rock stars or the more recent dream - influencers on 6 figure incomes

ToneControl

might be good to move to music section?

Philly_Q

ToneControl said:

might be good to move to music section?

I think it's pretty much run its course.  Maybe it could go to P&E since it touched on universal basic income.

rze99

Talented lady.