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I've had that a lot too, even when pointing out that I use a rather savage fuzz pedal so it will likely sound shit out front. I've learned to fix the problem without arguing about it by taking my own preamp pedal, which goes after the fuzz pedal - and thus in front of the DI box, of course. Oddly, they never seem to have a problem with that.
"Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski
"Only two things are infinite - the universe, and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
She gigs with it every single week and never had an issue until this guy rocks up.
I know I would prefer singing into something that has been gobbed into by the previous singer.
Yesterday she had a bit of a cold so the unfortunate person after her would have been in close contact with her germs.
Luckily I've been alright with most of them, the only issues they've had are telling me to turn my 6505+ 120 watt amp head down as its way too loud haha. Other than that I do learn their name instead of calling them "mate", "mr soundguy" or another title. Also I've been fortunate enough to know who they are from another show or they're a contact of the band etc.
"Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski
"Only two things are infinite - the universe, and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
As many have said, dicks gotta dick. But it's not cool - performers should be put at ease and all that. Other side of coin is many a performer, many a challenge too. Everyone can have a bad day. But like plumbers, politicians, police etc etc it takes just the one t.w.a.t to ruin things.
My experience of late has largely been helpful, positive and folks that know what they are doing. My only slight gripe is I like volume. Stage and overall gig volume. I get it, the frequencies need to match or its a disaster for many an engineer. That said, there's a time and place for a jukebox. I don't mind an edgy sound if it's carrying over and folk are actually listening rather than the band being mixed like venue backing music. We are a 3 piece plus singer. I don't want it to be all guitar - if I could afford a string section, keys/ samples/ a choir etc then I would. Unfortunately to fill out the sound I need volume and loads of reverbs/ echos.
Not once have I ever got great monitor mixes due to turning down. I'd say if those were looked after more at sound check then it'd be easier to compromise a bit. And like one poster said, you turn down and then get told after it no one could hear you.
Long winded ramble, apologies. Loads of good folks out there both performers and engineers and when they work together it usually ends up just fine. But only takes one melt to ruin it.
Next gig's the best one anyways,
H
www.proudhoney.com
Another guy though one night started telling me that I needed to take the treble down on my amp. I walked over to it, touched the treble knob without moving it, played a chord and asked "How's that?"
"MUCH better" came the reply, "you were nearly taking my head off before!"
Only I didn't laugh, as a) that's snobby and b) it wasn't the only unwelcoming patronising know it all attitude I received on what was supposed to be a nice experience in a studio. It took me a long time before I went to another studio (and that one was much better in terms of personnel and kit)
Next was he refused to mic up the matchless despite running it in stereo. ‘What’s the point mate? I have a mono pa.’
At that point I nearly let rip, but didn’t. The final straw was him refusing to have anything in my monitor- ‘sorry mate, with ‘that lot behind you, you can hear yourself and I’ll give you some vocals in the monitor. I don’t have time to do that for you.’
Since re starting gigging, all sound guys I have come across have been good, some really helpful but this guy was a huge bell end. So I hope I got all the bad luck for the year rolled up into one obnoxious twat and all the gigs for the rest of the year will have an excellent crew!
No need for it at all
Quite often I do both on the same day. My company is supplying the PA and doing sound for a small 4 band festival on Sat but I'm also playing in the headlining band.
I find the work quite hard at times, certainly the 10 hour shifts but it's also rewarding and I've met some great people.