Tone Masters on big stages...

26.2

26.2 said:

stickyfiddle said:

26.2 said:

Any TM DeLuxe Reverb users - what’s your experience with drive pedals (low to mid gain) - does it handle them well at band volumes? How’s  the headroom? 

This is my gigging board right now (a couple of iterations ago, but same concept). It's phenomenal

Very nice!! Do you gig with that and the TMDR?

26.2 said:

stickyfiddle said:

26.2 said:

Any TM DeLuxe Reverb users - what’s your experience with drive pedals (low to mid gain) - does it handle them well at band volumes? How’s  the headroom? 

This is my gigging board right now (a couple of iterations ago, but same concept). It's phenomenal

Very nice!! Do you gig with that and the TMDR?

Sorry - you said gigging board. Can’t read! 

stickyfiddle

26.2 said:

stickyfiddle said:

26.2 said:

Any TM DeLuxe Reverb users - what’s your experience with drive pedals (low to mid gain) - does it handle them well at band volumes? How’s  the headroom? 

This is my gigging board right now (a couple of iterations ago, but same concept). It's phenomenal

Very nice!! Do you gig with that and the TMDR?

Yep. If anything I'm adding more gain for the next iteration - something TS-ish and at least one fuzz. 

I take a Matchless Laurel Canyon when I know I can wind if up (or both that and the TMDR if I have space) but the TMDR is the default

Greatape

stickyfiddle said:

26.2 said:

stickyfiddle said:

26.2 said:

Any TM DeLuxe Reverb users - what’s your experience with drive pedals (low to mid gain) - does it handle them well at band volumes? How’s  the headroom? 

This is my gigging board right now (a couple of iterations ago, but same concept). It's phenomenal

Very nice!! Do you gig with that and the TMDR?

Yep. If anything I'm adding more gain for the next iteration - something TS-ish and at least one fuzz. 

I take a Matchless Laurel Canyon when I know I can wind if up (or both that and the TMDR if I have space) but the TMDR is the default

 Niiiiice

Revolutions

It's a incredible board @stickyfiddle - also nice to know how you search your images to find ones of your board

stickyfiddle

I need to photograph the updated version. That was for a Fleetwood Mac set, I did get it down to a PTJr by taking off a Page and the Deco. 

The latest show is an 80s vibe while also letting me practice Pink Floyd stuff so it's getting chonky... 

birtner

26.2 said:

Any TM DeLuxe Reverb users - what’s your experience with drive pedals (low to mid gain) - does it handle them well at band volumes? How’s  the headroom? 

Headroom is fine (and adjustable!), handles pedals like a champ

26.2

I’m thinking of getting one as a more portable back up amp, which I would use for some smaller gigs. 

I’d be putting this lot through it. Main drive is the Gain Changer pushed by the TS or Timmy for solos or loud bits. 

https://flic.kr/p/2sastxx

dc77

26.2 said:

Any TM DeLuxe Reverb users - what’s your experience with drive pedals (low to mid gain) - does it handle them well at band volumes? How’s  the headroom? 

Headroom is exactly what you’d expect with the valve equivalent. Single coils starts to get a bit of hair around 5.5 on the volume and 5 with H/Bs. 

Only thing I would say is that the pedal level needs to be backed off a bit to get unity level or a slight boost in comparison to a valve DR 

Col_Decker

OK so I’m not playing big stages like John Mayer etc but I used a Helix with a Tone Master FRFR12 for a year or so. Did sound great and was super portable… but the amp did like to walk off during gigs.
By that I mean that it weighs so little that vibrations on the stage would make it move. I played a gig on a HGV trailer where the sound crew wanted it mic’d up, and it moved away from the mic by a couple feet during the first song. So to put it on a car mat.

[edit: of course it was close to the drum kit so that would have been a factor). 

26.2

Quick, potentially very dumb, question:

would a TMDR feed back nicely with plenty of gain? It’s a key part of my sound, being able to control feedback and almost use it as a ‘pad’ at times. I’ve no idea if digital amps could do that, as I’ve only used valve amps. 

Cheers. 

stickyfiddle

26.2 said:

Quick, potentially very dumb, question:

would a TMDR feed back nicely with plenty of gain? It’s a key part of my sound, being able to control feedback and almost use it as a ‘pad’ at times. I’ve no idea if digital amps could do that, as I’ve only used valve amps. 

Cheers. 

Oh. God. Yes.

A good semi-acoustic balancing feedback, delay and tremolo is my #1 thing when I'm being myself. SUPER fun 

munckee

Having previously disappointed by a TMDR I played the Princeton version today. Attenuated with the volume turned up it sounded amazing, as good as any amp I’ve played on. 

The reverb was good, the trem was  nothing special.  

The clean was still not comparable to a valve Princeton though. 

26.2

stickyfiddle said:

26.2 said:

Quick, potentially very dumb, question:

would a TMDR feed back nicely with plenty of gain? It’s a key part of my sound, being able to control feedback and almost use it as a ‘pad’ at times. I’ve no idea if digital amps could do that, as I’ve only used valve amps. 

Cheers. 

Oh. God. Yes.

A good semi-acoustic balancing feedback, delay and tremolo is my #1 thing when I'm being myself. SUPER fun 

Thanks! I do that too

andy1839

I've been in Charleston for the last week and there's always loads of live bands on every night.

I'd say 90% of the bands I saw, the guitarists were playing Tonemasters.

They sat in the mix incredibly well, from three piece to ten piece jazz/blues with horns and keys.

I'm now keeping an eye out for either a TM Bassman or Princeton.  

Tone winner was a Nash tele into a Princeton with just a Zendrive in front. Its making me rethink my HH set neck multi-fx life.

Greatape

munckee said:

Having previously disappointed by a TMDR I played the Princeton version today. Attenuated with the volume turned up it sounded amazing, as good as any amp I’ve played on. 

The reverb was good, the trem was  nothing special.  

The clean was still not comparable to a valve Princeton though. 

Feels like they are getting closer. 

Am a big fan of valve amps, but truth to be told, if I were buying a new amp for gigging now, I'd probably go the TM route. 

topdog91

monquixote said:

I'm wondering if Fender are doing a big push to artists to convince people they are pro level. 

Wondering? Looks pretty clear cut from here that the marketing bods are all over this (per most of social media).

Danny1969

munckee said:

Having previously disappointed by a TMDR I played the Princeton version today. Attenuated with the volume turned up it sounded amazing, as good as any amp I’ve played on. 

The reverb was good, the trem was  nothing special.  

The clean was still not comparable to a valve Princeton though. 

The Princeton is such a good amp for a basic clean sound  that I don't think many amps will sound as good, valve or digital. 

I'm not sure it would be worth having a tonemaster version of a Princeton though as the real amp is light anyway. 

stickyfiddle

Danny1969 said:

munckee said:

Having previously disappointed by a TMDR I played the Princeton version today. Attenuated with the volume turned up it sounded amazing, as good as any amp I’ve played on. 

The reverb was good, the trem was  nothing special.  

The clean was still not comparable to a valve Princeton though. 

The Princeton is such a good amp for a basic clean sound  that I don't think many amps will sound as good, valve or digital. 

I'm not sure it would be worth having a tonemaster version of a Princeton though as the real amp is light anyway. 

A valve one can't be cranked at home and I don't like them pristine clean. AND they don't have a DI. 

It's the package that makes them great tools, not just the weight

26.2

Well….I borrowed a TMDR for a few days including a full band rehearsal, and I am VERY impressed. I played the rehearsal with a pretty loud band with the volume on 2.5, attenuator full open (22W). All pedals sounded as they should and it was a really full sound, good response to picking dynamics, all great really. So I bought it. It’s going to make a great backup for my Vibrolux and I can easily see me choosing it for some gigs. 

As a long-standing valve snob, hats off to Fender, these amps are really excellent! 

richardhomer

26.2 said:

As a long-standing valve snob, hats off to Fender, these amps are really excellent! 

Just so long as no other maker brings out something similar looking but cheaper…