Ilegal alteration of web registration details ?

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ChrisMusicChrisMusic Frets: 1133
edited December 2015 in Off Topic
I believe that it is a legal requirement of ICANN registration to provide full and accurate details.

Any subsequent deletion or change to mask registration requirements I believe is in clear breach of their rules.

If I remember my research correctly, that could lead to them losing their web address, which would obviously be a catastrophe for anyone who relies on a web presence for their business.

I find it hard to think that anyone would be stupid enough to openly flout the ICANN registration rules, but if they did and someone who understands these things were to make ICANN aware, I wonder what the consequences would be ?

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  • Let me see if I can find a for instance, for educational purposes, you understand.

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  • I think anyone doing this would raise suspicions about their motives, what do you think ?

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  • Sorry for the boring post, but I happened to find a for instance in two web pages I have open where this exact thing has happened.  I will post them here to let you draw your own conclusions.

    The information was gathered from publicly available information within the space of a few minutes.
    I will have to split it across a couple of posts as it contains too many characters for one.

     Whois & Quick Stats
    Email
      
    Registrant Org Global Domain Privacy is associated with ~37,505 other domains  
    Registrar REGISTER.IT SPA
    Registrar Status clientDeleteProhibited, clientTransferProhibited, clientUpdateProhibited
    Dates Created on 2012-08-05 - Expires on 2015-08-05 - Updated on 2015-02-19  
    Name Server(s) NS0.PHASE8.NET (has 137,461 domains)
    NS1.PHASE8.NET (has 137,461 domains)
    NS2.PHASE8.NET (has 137,461 domains)
      
    IP Address 85.233.160.70 - 50,636 other sites hosted on this server  
    IP Location United Kingdom - England - Portsmouth - Namesco Hosting The
    ASN United Kingdom AS8622 ISIONUK Namesco Limited (registered Jan 15, 1998)
    Domain Status Registered And Active Website
    Whois History 18 records have been archived since 2012-08-07   
    IP History 2 changes on 3 unique IP addresses over 3 years  
    Registrar History 1 registrar   
    Hosting History 7 changes on 5 unique name servers over 13 years  
    Whois Server whois.register.it
     Website
    Website Title  Award Winning Architectural Photographer   
    Response Code 200
    SEO Score 92%
    Terms 17 (Unique: 16, Linked: 11)
    Images 0 (Alt tags missing: 0)
    Links 5   (Internal: 5, Outbound: 0)
    Whois Record ( last updated on 2015-02-19 )
    Domain Name: JCOLLINGRIDGE.COM
    Registry Domain ID: 1737431987_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
    Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.register.it
    Registrar URL: http://we.register.it
    Updated Date: 2015-02-19T00:00:00Z
    Creation Date: 2012-08-06T00:00:00Z
    Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2015-08-05T00:00:00Z
    Registrar: REGISTER.IT S.P.A.
    Registrar IANA ID: 168
    Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse[at]register.it
    Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +39.0353230310
    Reseller:
    Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited
    Domain Status: clientUpdateProhibited
    Domain Status: clientDeleteProhibited


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  • Registry Registrant ID:
    Registrant Name: Global Domain Privacy
    Registrant Organization: GLOBAL DOMAIN PRIVACY
    Registrant Street: Via Zanchi 22
    Registrant City: Bergamo
    Registrant State/Province: BG
    Registrant Postal Code: 24126
    Registrant Country: IT
    Registrant Phone: +39.0353230400
    Registrant Phone Ext:
    Registrant Fax: +39.0353230312
    Registrant Fax Ext:
    Registrant Email: 
    Registry Admin ID:
    Admin Name: Global Domain Privacy
    Admin Organization: GLOBAL DOMAIN PRIVACY
    Admin Street: Via Zanchi 22
    Admin City: Bergamo
    Admin State/Province: BG
    Admin Postal Code: 24126
    Admin Country: IT
    Admin Phone: +39.0353230400
    Admin Phone Ext:
    Admin Fax: +39.0353230312
    Admin Fax Ext:
    Admin Email: 
    Registry Tech ID:
    Tech Name: Global Domain Privacy
    Tech Organization: GLOBAL DOMAIN PRIVACY
    Tech Street: Via Zanchi 22
    Tech City: Bergamo
    Tech State/Province: BG
    Tech Postal Code: 24126
    Tech Country: IT
    Tech Phone: +39.0353230400
    Tech Phone Ext:
    Tech Fax: +39.0353230312
    Tech Fax Ext:
    Tech Email: 
    Name Server: NS0.PHASE8.NET
    Name Server: NS2.PHASE8.NET
    Name Server: NS1.PHASE8.NET
    DNSSEC: unsigned
    URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: http://wdprs.internic.net/

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  • The Registrant details a few minutes before were as follows, I wonder what he has got to hide ?

    I believe that this is illegal use of ICANN registration ?


    Domain Name: JCOLLINGRIDGE.COM
    Registry Domain ID: 1737431987_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
    Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.register.it
    Registrar URL: http://we.register.it
    Updated Date: 2014-08-30T00:00:00Z
    Creation Date: 2012-08-06T00:00:00Z
    Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2015-08-05T00:00:00Z
    Registrar: REGISTER.IT S.P.A.
    Registrar IANA ID: 168
    Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse[at]register.it
    Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +39.0353230310
    Reseller:
    Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited
    Domain Status: clientUpdateProhibited
    Domain Status: clientDeleteProhibited
    Registry Registrant ID:
    Registrant Name: J Collingridge
    Registrant Organization: J Collingridge
    Registrant Street: 23 Four Oaks
    Registrant City: Chesham
    Registrant State/Province: Buckinghamshire
    Registrant Postal Code: HP52SD
    Registrant Country: GB
    Registrant Phone: +44.8453633630
    Registrant Phone Ext:
    Registrant Fax: 
    Registrant Fax Ext:
    Registrant Email: 
    Registry Admin ID:
    Admin Name: Domain Administrator
    Admin Organization: Namesco Limited
    Admin Street: Acton House, Perdiswell Park
    Admin City: Worcester
    Admin State/Province: England
    Admin Postal Code: WR3 7GD
    Admin Country: GB
    Admin Phone: +44.8453633630
    Admin Phone Ext:
    Admin Fax: 
    Admin Fax Ext:
    Admin Email: 
    Registry Tech ID:
    Tech Name: 
    Tech Organization: Namesco Limited
    Tech Street: Acton House, Perdiswell Park
    Tech City: Worcester
    Tech State/Province: England
    Tech Postal Code: WR3 7GD
    Tech Country: GB
    Tech Phone: +44.8453633630
    Tech Phone Ext:
    Tech Fax: +44.8453633631
    Tech Fax Ext:
    Tech Email: 
    Name Server: NS0.PHASE8.NET
    Name Server: NS2.PHASE8.NET
    Name Server: NS1.PHASE8.NET
    DNSSEC: unsigned
    URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: http://wdprs.internic.net/


    These contact details were on the above mentioned web site:

    +44 (0) 7928 092825
    INFO@JCOLLINGRIDGE.COM


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  • That's rather suspicious. I too noticed that up until recently the whois details were as follows:

    Domain Name: JCOLLINGRIDGE.COM
    Registry Domain ID: 1737431987_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
    Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.register.it
    Registrar URL: http://we.register.it
    Updated Date: 2014-08-30T00:00:00Z
    Creation Date: 2012-08-06T00:00:00Z
    Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2015-08-05T00:00:00Z
    Registrar: REGISTER.IT S.P.A.
    Registrar IANA ID: 168
    Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse[at]register.it
    Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +39.0353230310
    Reseller:
    Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited
    Domain Status: clientUpdateProhibited
    Domain Status: clientDeleteProhibited
    Registry Registrant ID:
    Registrant Name: J Collingridge
    Registrant Organization: J Collingridge
    Registrant Street: 23 Four Oaks
    Registrant City: Chesham
    Registrant State/Province: Buckinghamshire
    Registrant Postal Code: HP52SD
    Registrant Country: GB
    Registrant Phone: +44.8453633630
    Registrant Phone Ext:
    Registrant Fax: 
    Registrant Fax Ext:
    Registrant Email: 
    Registry Admin ID:...

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    Admin Name: Domain Administrator
    Admin Organization: Namesco Limited
    Admin Street: Acton House, Perdiswell Park
    Admin City: Worcester
    Admin State/Province: England
    Admin Postal Code: WR3 7GD
    Admin Country: GB
    Admin Phone: +44.8453633630
    Admin Phone Ext:
    Admin Fax: 
    Admin Fax Ext:
    Admin Email: 
    Registry Tech ID:
    Tech Name: 
    Tech Organization: Namesco Limited
    Tech Street: Acton House, Perdiswell Park
    Tech City: Worcester
    Tech State/Province: England
    Tech Postal Code: WR3 7GD
    Tech Country: GB
    Tech Phone: +44.8453633630
    Tech Phone Ext:
    Tech Fax: +44.8453633631
    Tech Fax Ext:
    Tech Email: 
    Name Server: NS0.PHASE8.NET
    Name Server: NS2.PHASE8.NET
    Name Server: NS1.PHASE8.NET
    DNSSEC: unsigned
    URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: http://wdprs.internic.net/

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    I see that these contact details are still present on the above mentioned web site:

    +44 (0) 7928 092825
    INFO@JCOLLINGRIDGE.COM

    And they are also captured in the Internet Archive Wayback Machine:

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  • jellyrolljellyroll Frets: 3074
    Yer what?
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  • DeadmanDeadman Frets: 4153
    I do wish I'd tried harder in class.
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  • chillidoggychillidoggy Frets: 17140
    Some of us need to get out more.


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  • breakstuffbreakstuff Frets: 10884
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    Laugh, love, live, learn. 
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  • boogiemanboogieman Frets: 12878
    I think what the posters are saying is:
    Our scammer friend has changed his website details illegally.
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  • TTonyTTony Frets: 28419
    He did change the details, although it's not too hard to find an archived version of the original details.

    However, I don't believe that it's illegal to do so.  Many domain registrars allow you to withhold your personal details from the WHOIS db, for privacy reasons.  

    That's where my knowledge ends and this is where interpretation takes over ... I *believe* that withholding of the data is permitted for individuals and non-trading organisations, but is not permitted for commercial / trading businesses.
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  • chillidoggychillidoggy Frets: 17140

    What the fuck is going on?


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  • What the fuck is going on?

    There's been a multiple identify scammer selling stuff here, and he's caught quite a few people out, who've all paid by PPG....so the forum sleuths have tracked him down using his data trail on the internet....which he's now trying to remove as he knows he's a naughty boy and he's upset a lot of people. 
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  • TTonyTTony Frets: 28419

    What the fuck is going on?

    Said Snow White when she awoke to find 7 strange men looking at her ....
    Having trouble posting images here?  This might help.
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  • TTony said:

    What the fuck is going on?

    Said Snow White when she awoke to find 7 strange men looking at her ....
    Stop tapping into Chilli's fantasies.
    My muse is not a horse and art is not a race.
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  • TTony said:

    What the fuck is going on?

    Said Snow White when she awoke to find 7 strange men looking at her ....


    Snow White woke up that morning feeling grumpy,





    ~ the other 6 dwarfs were extremely jealous...

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