LP Master Volume mod?

SunDevil

Hi,

I play guitar straight to amp and clean up with my guitar volume / roll on more with more crunch. I also love playing on the Middle position on a LP and tweaking both volumes to taste and use the tone pots when playing with the pups out if phase.
So I'm using all 4 for pots on the LP but I would also like a strat-style master volume control pot - so I can set my treble/rhythm volumes and clean up with but a single flick of my pinky.
Oh and I don't want to mutilate the guitar body at all and consider pedals of any type tone-sucking works of Belzeobab!
Best I can come up with is a push /pull in one of the current volumes or a concentric double pot - neither of which appeal.
Any better ideas?

streethawk

Scroll down and fill yer boots.

http://www.mylespaul.com/forums/4555-post2.html

SunDevil

Cheers - close but not quite!

I need both tones to fine tune the phase cancellation when in 'Peter Green' mode, both pickup volumes AND the master vol?

impmann

I'd stick the tone pots on a dual concentric and then wire the two volumes and the master on normal
pots.

Otherwise it's time to break out the router and the drill.

streethawk

SunDevil said:

Cheers - close but not quite!

I need both tones to fine tune the phase cancellation when in 'Peter Green' mode, both pickup volumes AND the master vol?

Oh right I've just reread your post. No, don't have any better ideas to the ones you came up with. Sorry. 

SunDevil

No worries mate - appreciate the input none the less!
Anyone know of a concentric push /pull pot out there? ..I use the tone pots less, so I could double stack them to fee up one position for the master?

richardhomer

Far be it from me to tell you how to play - but when I had a Les Paul with out of phase pick-ups, the relative volume which each was set to allowed at great deal of fine tuning. I can't believe a separate tone control for each is really necessary.

Surely you could get away with a master tone control?

usedtobe

Can't you just turn everything up to 10, like the rest of us..?!

slacker

Volume pedal?

richardhomer

slacker;648759" said:

Volume pedal?

Actually that's best solution anyone's come up with!

streethawk

richardhomer;649364" said:

[quote="slacker;648759"]Volume pedal?

Actually that's best solution anyone's come up with![/quote]

He won't wear any pedals!

Figuratively and literally, I imagine.

SunDevil

Hi all, yeah the volume pedal idea is what Mr Knopfler has been using to get around this (but what would he know, eh?)

Out of phase, small changes in the tone controls can take you from nasal honk to mud - millions of tones in there!

WezV

Router & drill


In all seriousness I really like having the extra master volume control near the bridge on my john birch and will be installing one on my zematis clone for the same reason.

On a normal lp I would be going for the dual concentric tone pot.

richardhomer

SunDevil;649726" said:

Hi all, yeah the volume pedal idea is what Mr Knopfler has been using to get around this (but what would he know, eh?)

Oddly enough, when @Slacker made the suggestion, MK immediately came to mind - he's been using one for as long as he's played a Les Paul on stage.

One of the issues I've always had with Les Pauls is that the volumes are badly placed for quick changes - Strats and PRSs are what I'm used to. A pedal definitely solves that and leaves the guitar looking 'right'.

ICBM

Keep the guitar exactly stock and use one of these for the master volume control.

http://www.schattendesign.com/Product_Images/BB-03 Pics/BB-03Hand250.jpg

Maybe a tiny bit awkward to reach quickly though.

SunDevil

Anybody know what flavour of pedal he's using off hand?

SunDevil

Thanks ICBM (as ever) - that looks an interesting alternative to the pedal - I shall give it a look

richardhomer

SunDevil;649782" said:

Anybody know what flavour of pedal he's using off hand?

Ernie Ball IIRC

SunDevil

Cheers - I've not immediately tracked down that exact model, but feck me, they are some expensive potentiometers!