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Blair: The war criminal with blood on his hands
Brown: Mr 'British jobs for British people'
Corbyn: A complete sell out
Give me Farage and Boris any day of the week.
Offset "(Emp) - a little heavy on the hyperbole."
What specifically (in headline terms if you like) have Farage and Boris countered the Remain claims with specifically as genuinely viable alternatives?
For the sake of avoiding the usual propaganda, "immigration" is off the table. I'm still floating and would like something more concrete if they are to change my mind from edging towards voting remain.
Ending 2016 with Trump in charge of the USA, Boris in No.10 and us out of Europe doesn't strike me as any kind of win, more like a Doomsday scenario.
Offset "(Emp) - a little heavy on the hyperbole."
. If 'Brexit' needed a slogan, they should have used that.
I assume whoever wrote that meant the latter, since the number of stars on the EU flag doesn't represent the states, but the number on the US flag does.
"Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski
"Only two things are infinite - the universe, and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
It was going to, but funnily enough 'Europe' could not reach an agreement on the number of stars. The author made their point succinctly.
"Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski
"Only two things are infinite - the universe, and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
Many soundbites can be deconstructed by pedantic twats.
If the Vote was Out, I suppose there would be a leadership challenge, but would that mean it has to be BoJo? Don't forget, there could be more tory 'Ins' than 'Outs' and that could mean the next PM ain't BoJo.
Annoyingly, if everyone who can vote does, and the majority is 100% 'Out', we'll still have to have a second vote in 2 years time after the negotiation period to confirm our decision.
Equally annoyingly, if everyone who can vote does, and the majority is 50.000001% 'In', we never get another vote.
This latter line is what cameron said, although I don't think he used any numbers.
Yesterday, I noticed that on the cover of the Times, it mentions that moves were being started to create a single European army. Considering that the EU says it wants 'Ever greater union', I don't see how this unified army cannot come about. Where else can 'ever greater union' end but in a single European 'country'? So it would need a single military, a single Govt., a single legal system etc. etc.
But you watch the ridicule by the EU supporters when anyone mentions a coming single European army.
Anyway, I don't hold out much hope of a Brexit, the jocks'll keep us in. Remember they wanted 'Independance' from England, but actually wanted to immediately throw that Independance away by joining the EU. If they succeeded in doing both, they would've had to give up the Pound (which the made such a fuss about keeping) and take the Euro instead and give much of the control of their economy to the European central bank (and Germany?).
Remember all that whinging the jocks did about England and Wales making decisions that affect the jocks without them wanting those decisions? Well They'll be getting their revenge soon. If it turns out that the Jock vote keeps us in, I'm not sure all the Outies will be quite so keen on buying relatives they don't like boxes of scottish shortbread for Xmas.
Hardly anyone in the general population is qualified to make any kind of informed decision on this.
At least with normal elections policies dominate the discussion.
What proportion of the population is going to read through the whole European manifesto, have the Brexit campaign put forward an alternative stay in manifesto.
If we pull out the political bun fight of what to do next will go on for years.
Suddenly Europe will be without a major contributor so another bum fight will ensue in the Europe. Economies will suffer on both sides of the divide the result will not be short term it will drag on for years as everything rebalances. Other economies will take advantage.
The more I think about it I'm moving towards staying in buddying up with similar countries to ours and fight for European reform.
And fundamentally, the arguments all flying around are so impenetrable to me, that all I have are the raw principles... and the EU is not a democratic institution, therefore I am swayed by the Leave camp for that reason alone.