Flying V?

Sambostar · December 2013

Does it have to be a gibson? Make one from parts?

John_P · December 2013

Thanks chaps - that strersbar looks a lot nicer than the pics I'd seen previously.

The trem is more of a wish really - if I was planning to spend serious money I'd look for the right one with a floyd.

In this case I'd be intersested to hear of any cheapo V's that would be a good base for future upgrades - half decent wood and construction will do - it sounds like the epiphones are ok and worth getting the right bridge incase I go for a strets.

Bucket · December 2013

Here's mine. It's automatically better than anything else in this thread because it has a fixed bridge.

http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af347/ConnorF1995/My gear/DSCF1684_zps8838f061.jpg

Sambostar · December 2013

http://www.kneguitars.com/v_bod.php

They will do you a 22 fret body with a recessed or no recessed Floyd, probably 24.75" too is you asked if you can find a bolt on to match and don't mind bolt ons. Decent bodies these and decent wood too.

OilCityPickups · December 2013

Really not sure why you'd want a Floyd ... ugly, tone sapping, eighties monstrosities that only trump a Stetsbar in being able to make the strings go totally floppy ... the point of that being what exactly? If an octave down and a third up ain't enough for you dive bombers lordy help you

ThePrettyDamned · December 2013

TheGuitarWeasel;113204" said:
Really not sure why you'd want a Floyd ... ugly, tone sapping, eighties monstrosities that only trump a Stetsbar in being able to make the strings go totally floppy ... the point of that being what exactly? If an octave down and a third up ain't enough for you dive bombers lordy help you

Yahtzee, the games reviewer of zero punctuation fame, refers to inane shooting games as 'spunk gargle wee wee' games. Are you suggesting the Floyd might be the equivalent?

Fwiw, I love Floyd trems and they *can* be wonderfully musical. But (and this is a big but) they're very hard to sound good with. Changes are very abrubt, so getting a nice smooth and accurate transition from a note to, say, a 5th up, takes a lot of practice.

It's why I now use non lockers, which are much more forgiving of bad technique. They also don't 'warble' on the low strings as much. However, I'd like a Floyd loaded guitar again someday, because they are good fun... Even if it is for spunk gargle wee wee music

DrBob · December 2013

guitargeek62;113005" said:
DeeTee said:

I've heard lots of good things about the korina Epi ones, plus I really like korina as a tonewood.

Korina's an ace tonewood; but the Epi's are korina veneer over poplar/basswood/alder, with a maple neck and rosewood fingerboard. They're still nice, but they don't sound much like a proper korina or 'hog one.

Source, I had one for a couple of years.

Liar, liar pants on fire ! You've never owned a guitar 'for a couple of years' I know you Si and it's couple of weeks at best ! ;-)

ROOG · December 2013

Liking the White one Lixarto posted, serious question can you play one sitting? It looks like that might be a challenge.

OilCityPickups · December 2013

ThePrettyDamned said:

TheGuitarWeasel;113204" said:
Really not sure why you'd want a Floyd ... ugly, tone sapping, eighties monstrosities that only trump a Stetsbar in being able to make the strings go totally floppy ... the point of that being what exactly? If an octave down and a third up ain't enough for you dive bombers lordy help you
Yahtzee, the games reviewer of zero punctuation fame, refers to inane shooting games as 'spunk gargle wee wee' games. Are you suggesting the Floyd might be the equivalent?

Fwiw, I love Floyd trems and they *can* be wonderfully musical. But (and this is a big but) they're very hard to sound good with. Changes are very abrubt, so getting a nice smooth and accurate transition from a note to, say, a 5th up, takes a lot of practice.

It's why I now use non lockers, which are much more forgiving of bad technique. They also don't 'warble' on the low strings as much. However, I'd like a Floyd loaded guitar again someday, because they are good fun... Even if it is for spunk gargle wee wee music

Bugger .... just spilt my tea: 'spunk gargle wee wee music' is exactly right

It is really tough to sound good on any trem used in an extreme way ... is a set of techniques that have to be practiced as hard as finger vibrato or any other form of expression. I've heard far too many 'bedroom Becks' sounding like a rabbit being slowly crushed by a cow in labour to believe that giving everyone a Floyd ... or a Stetsbar for that matter, is a sure route to bonzer tones all round

Bucket · December 2013

ROOG said:

Liking the White one Lixarto posted, serious question can you play one sitting? It looks like that might be a challenge.

Yes, and it's more comfortable than a Les Paul, SG, Explorer or Firebird sitting down.

Bold statement, but it's true.

ThePrettyDamned · December 2013

Bucket said:

ROOG said:

Liking the White one Lixarto posted, serious question can you play one sitting? It looks like that might be a challenge.

Yes, and it's more comfortable than a Les Paul, SG, Explorer or Firebird sitting down.

Bold statement, but it's true.

This is true, just with with one leg between the 'v'. It naturally elevates the neck into a more classical position and makes practicing for long sessions remarkably comfortable. The only thing that arguably beats it for comfort is a strat, or any other double cut, contoured design. A non contoured strat is, in my opinion, less comfy.

ICBM · December 2013

It doesn't work like that for me - maybe I'm too small or something, but it's very awkward to play it like that and the neck ends up at a ridiculous angle. A Les Paul is far more comfortable sitting down. As is just about any other solidbody except maybe a Firebird, which is just too long. Vs are only any good standing up, for me.

Most comfortable sitting is probably a Jaguar, but a Tele is surprisingly good too, since it doesn't have the tendency to slide off that the ones with rounded edges do... likewise a PRS.

OilCityPickups · December 2013

V is perfect for me sitting down ... leg between the V .... job done

ROOG · December 2013

Ok, that's come as a surprise to me, I've never even picked one up owing to belief that it wouldn't work sitting.

Perhaps I should give one a go, became very popular in 'my era'.

Lew · December 2013

You need one of these from @FelineGuitars :-D

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OilCityPickups · December 2013

Nah ... if I were getting Jon to make me one it'd be a 67 ... can't use a trem on a 58 apart from a Bigsby as has been discussed

guitargeek62 · December 2013

DrBob;113266" said:
[quote="guitargeek62;113005"]DeeTee said:

I've heard lots of good things about the korina Epi ones, plus I really like korina as a tonewood.

Korina's an ace tonewood; but the Epi's are korina veneer over poplar/basswood/alder, with a maple neck and rosewood fingerboard. They're still nice, but they don't sound much like a proper korina or 'hog one.

Source, I had one for a couple of years.

Liar, liar pants on fire ! You've never owned a guitar 'for a couple of years' I know you Si and it's couple of weeks at best ! ;-)[/quote]

Lol! Normally you'd be dead right, but this was before I got into the tonequest, before I joined the forum(s), before the GAS times...

I'd been after a '58 Korina Vee since I was 4, thanks to Mr Wheeler of Ash fame. The Epi looked the part, and I remember it playing well, but it didn't have the thunk of a proper one even after I swapped in some decent pickups (Swineshead PAF-a-likes, iirc).

*edit* Besides, I've still got my first guitar - that's 10/11 years now?!

dlmorley · December 2013

I have a jaydee Flying V. No problem sitting with it if you don't mind splayed legs! Great guitar. I wonder if the fact that a V is symmetrical has anything to do with how it rings out amazingly but that could of course be john diggins.

chillidoggy · December 2013

My 67 reissue is easy to play sat down, dunno what all the fuss is about.

OilCityPickups · December 2013

dlmorley said:

I have a jaydee Flying V. No problem sitting with it if you don't mind splayed legs! Great guitar. I wonder if the fact that a V is symmetrical has anything to do with how it rings out amazingly but that could of course be john diggins.

I used to have a JD Explorer !!!!!! Yay

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