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ive not tried boosting the DM with a pedal only using it as a boost.
I know the DM was designed to have a lot of headroom, maybe that's the cause?
I have this same problem with some OD pedals too, I can hear the clean signal, even when I have the gain up on the OD. It's more evident on the clean channel of an amp.
Thats some gain there fella.
I only run it about 12'oclock, with the Blues Driver the same.
Problem with the Shiba Drive is that it too mixes the clean signal, and you can still hear it if you play it through the clean channel.
I haven't noticed that myself, but after you asked if it was a clone i went to the freestompboxes forum, and they sort of half-reverse-engineered it (the guy doing it stopped halfway, I guess he had better things to do) and it seemed to be soft clipping in a feedback loop- and I think that style of clipping (like a ts) has a bit of a rep of sort of sounding "on top" of the clean tone.
There is no clean bleed with the Boss OD 3 or OD 1, but there is with the SD1.
Just to clarify what I mean about clean bleed-
i play through a clean amp and this happens with both solid state or tube.
if I have the Dark Matter on and I boost it with another pedal, booster or overdrive it doesn't matter, it pushes even more if the clean signal through to the amp and it sounds mushy and gets louder instead of more compressed.
If if I have the Suhr Riot on and I boost it it doesn't bleed any clean through and instead the sound gets dirtier and more compressed.
View my feedback at www.thefretboard.co.uk/discussion/comment/1201922
http://www.thegearpage.net/board/index.php?threads/rockett-pedals-clean-bleed-does-the-blue-note-have-it-too.1216781/
Tha ha was back in 2013 and I should have taken my own advice about the Holdsworth pedal because I ended up buying it and don't like it because of clean bleed.
The other problem is that hard clippers tend to be distortion pedals rather than OD pedals, but not always. For example, the klon, the OCD and the distortion +/OD250 use clipping to ground and are arguably more overdrive than distortion pedals (or there's the rat which has a very wide gain range), so maybe something in that vein might work. If you want the marshally thing the crunchbox or guvnor or something like that would likely be worth a try.
As I said, though, I can't guarantee that going for a hard clipper will solve the problem, since you tried a soft-clipper/feedback loop type pedal and didn't notice the problem, it may well be a bit more complicated...
EDIT: ah I've just read your post better and you said it's even worse when boosting. I'm not sure I've noticed that specific problem, but I did think my dark matter didn't take a boost as well as some of my other distortion pedals.
out of interest is the Dod250 a distortion or overdrive, given its based on the Dist +? I've never played a Dist + , but I think it's a fuzzy kind of distortion from what I've heard.
yeah the distortion + is kind of weird. I've heard people say it's not that great, and that there are more modern pedals which are better- and that's pretty much true. It doesn't have a load of distortion on tap, it doesn't have much volume boost on tap, and as you said, if you turn the gain up too much (above about 12 o'clock, which is not that heavy) it gets fuzzy. it also has no tone control and can be way too bright depending on the rest of the rig.
and yet i find for a lot of the older-school type of classic to hard rock tones it actually sounds really good, and it also works pretty well for those classic rock "is it vintage-style amp distortion or a fuzz?" type of tones as well. i do stack it with amp distortion, though, it sounds pretty rubbish into a clean amp (way too bright and thin, as i said above). I generally run mine with the volume maxed and the distortion at about 10-11 o'clock.
if you want a standalone distortion (into a clean amp, I mean), then I'd probably look elsewhere.
The Suhr Riot Reloaded is, for me, hard to beat, but I would like something different.
The DOD was pretty nice, from what I recall, but not very 'gainy' but this was before I learnt about gain stacking.
i haven't tried the riot reloaded.