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I guess i wasn't really giving a finite answer as to what i thought was best so i can see why it wouldn't be useful to the majority. I guess i was just blown away by how good all the speakers are and how much a difference they make to you sound.
The purpose of me doing it is to nail down the speakers i like best with certain amps, hence why i didn't do anything more scientific.
RiftAmps said: yeah i can see how this would be a massive ballache for amp designers....
The wizard, which was REALLY loud! a very efficient speaker.
professorben said: The Mesa Dual Rectifier paired best with the V30 for me, i think that amp needs the enhanced mids the V30 offers, otherwise it can be a bit dark sounding. thats a personal preference thing though.
I can see why they chose the V30 for my 6L6 Engl then.
Trying a matchless or bad cat against an ac30 pitches remarkably similar sounding amps (though different enough, for sure -probably not the best example tbh) but one has a celestion greenback and the other has an alnico gold . Of course one sounds more blanketed.
Yes, you would because I said "tune the amp to get the best sound from each speaker" .
I was just trying to inject a little order into something that is SO vastly complex that nobody would end up with a valid idea of a good amp/speaker combination. And I still maintain that you cannot make meaningful comparisons on that many speaker and amplifiers in a week, leave alone one day!
Fork! You need a hour off every hour to let the TTS in the ears subside!
Dave. (aka pedantic old fart)
How did the Wizard compare to the Creamback for volume / tone @ThorpyFX?
Speaker cone distortion - real, happens at almost any power input, and is what we like about guitar speakers.
Actual cone excursion breakup, or 'cone cry' - when the cone is pushed beyond its mechanical limits and starts to very seriously distort - real, and not musical-sounding usually… it sounds like the speaker is broken. Because it very soon will be, usually.
What most people seem to mean by 'speaker breakup' - the nice character you get when the speaker is pushed harder than the first but not as hard as the second - is more a function of thermal compression.
"Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski
"Only two things are infinite - the universe, and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
Tone is so subjective but I've found it to be really balanced across the tone range and sounds equally good clean or distorted.
Eminence claim a sensitivity of around 103dB - some will say they exaggerate these figures but as a fairly long-term owner, I believe it- it's very, very loud and if you want to squeeze maximum volume out of a low wattage amp, the Wizard should be a consideration.
Steve Carr used to fit them as standard to the Rambler, which is renowned for it's detailed 3d clean tone.
I don't really think any of the Eminences sound exactly like the Celestions they're supposedly similar to either - they have their own characteristic sound. I mostly much prefer Celestions, but there are a couple of Eminences I like in particular amps.
"Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski
"Only two things are infinite - the universe, and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
Like Les Paul > Marshall Plexi > Greenback is another magic combination, but if you put V30s in front of a Plexi they can sound very harsh - it's all about finding complimentary parts of the chain
"Everyone" *knows* that Blues are the best speakers for AC30s, right?
Well, I found that the way I used them - Normal channel, just before the onset of proper overdrive (dig in with buckers and it would crunch/clip a bit) with effects - the blues sounded harsh, aggressive and sat 'on top' of the mix. With the Greenbacks (which I have to admit was a happy accident at first) the sound smoothed out, and whilst was still strident (they were AC30s after all) the tone sat in the mix better.
I'm not suggesting it would work for everyone - but I preferred the resultant sound. A/B-ing between the two sets of speakers (Greens/Blues) just reinforced my preference.