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Advisories become Minor faults.
Failure items become Major faults.
And there has always been the option for a tester to class a failure as dangerous, and advise that the vehicle should not be driven from the test centre.
Outwith the new test items, the big change is a failure now invalidates any existing mot, which was always a bit of a grey area anyway.
The ability to drive to/from a test centre/repairer isn't changing. All a tester can do is advise you the vehicle is not roadworthy and/or dangerous, they can't stop you from driving it away. The only people who can do that are the police or authorised VOSA examiners, which do not include your typical mot tester.
All the flapping from the RAC is just to get their name out. Mot inspection standards have always been open to interpretation, and other than the new testable items, it's really only a rewording exercise.
I have a diesel, and it’s a 2018 - so it’s probably fairly clean. It’s also the cheapest way of doing the 30k miles a year I do. Anything else would be economical suicide.
I cant wait for an electric with 500 miles of range - would get one in an instant.
However, and here’s the BIG However - the move from diesel is quite cynical - it’s to remove pollution in cities. The new favourites for the government don’t consider environmental damage to manufacture (esp for batteries) and how the electricity is produced that we stick into our new super clean cars.
Cos personally burning coal is clearly much better for the environment than burning diesel.
"Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski
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@ICBM how many 40 year old cars are still on the road?
I do think more road side checks should be done, and I'm sure VOSA will do more targeted checks, but the basic still stands that if you're involved in an accident with an unroadworthy vehicle, then you're going to be liable for it. The police can impound the vehicle and get it independently checked, and insurance examiners will soon pickup on any issues that will allow them to invalidate policies.
In context though, there will be far more newer vehicles that have scraped through their last mot with a list of advisories and not been fixed, and are in far less roadworthy condition than much older vehicles. What do you think poses the bigger risk to the general public, a clapped out old Cortina that's likely to collapse in a pile of rust at the next bump in the road, or a 8 year old high performance BMW with a bottom ball joint ready to pop-out and loose control at the same bump?
"Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski
"Only two things are infinite - the universe, and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
Older members of this forum will very probably have experienced daily driving in the *proper* Issigonis BMC/Leyland Mini. In the event of a frontal collision, the crumple zone was YOUR KNEES.
I certainly remember when Volvo drivers were considered the BMW Audi drivers of the time too...
"Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski
"Only two things are infinite - the universe, and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
yet my car tax is £20 a year.
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Just because a car produces a little more visible smoke from the exhaust doesn't mean the car isn't safe to drive. Such a car could be far safer than a new car with barely legal tyres, worn brake discs, poor wheel alignment, yet a perfect well maintained engine.
That the MOT was saddled with emissions hasn't done the MOT any credibility favours. But if the emissions test was replaced with a proper means of determining the condition of the engine, that would be better, since an MOT would mean something to the next buyer of the car, rather than as a social engineering method of weeding out undesirable vehicles.
But who ever heard of an MOT failure on a public transport bus/coach with over a million miles on the clock? Worst belchers of the lot.
My next car will probably be petrol, but to compensate it'll probably be at least a V6 with a rotting cabbage hanging off the back bumper.
I'm not locked in here with you, you are locked in here with me.
Newer diesels are usually not bad, but I'd wager the majority of diesel cars on the roads are older, and therefore significantly dirtier than a petrol car the same age.
If so then you're definitely in the hysterical camp. Or do you not mean "orders of magnitude" in the defined sense?
For a shade over half its original list price.
It just irks me when people come up with these insane, unjustifiable claims just so they can earn smug-points on the inferweb, while they're still burning a slightly different sort of dinosaur-gravy in their cars and pretending nothing bad comes out of their exhausts.
Utter hypocrisy.