Nazi Pug owner fined £800

VimFuego · April 2018

Legionreturns said:

I feel absolutely certain this will be turned over on appeal. Not least because the courts don't want to be inundated with cases brought by people who've been offended.

I hope so, but otherwise as you say, the test seems now not to be is this offensive to someone is offended by this, and it's not hard to find someone who is easily offended.

mellowsun · April 2018

Bit disturbing that it is reported that Tommy Robinson supported him in court - I'd have told him to stay away, doesn't exactly do Dankula's image any good.

Dominic · April 2018

There will always be a certain type who are professional offended, over-sensitive and attention -seeking .....it's become a modern trend .
There is a difference between jokes that are not in good taste (ie this case) and statements that are intended to wound or provoke in a malicious sense. Can you prosecute for bad taste ? .....I don't think so ( or I wouldn't have a shirt left in my wardrobe !)
There was a parallel skit on YT by a Muslim guy offended because his kids were into watching Peppa Pig which he called " Da most Harammest 'ting " ....he wanted the character replaced by something more diversely suitable and suggested "why not Ali the Cat ?" .......Perhaps some were offended by that .

Emp_Fab · April 2018

To quote Stephen Fry... "It's now very common to hear people say, 'I'm rather offended by that.' As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more... than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well, so fucking what."

poopot · April 2018

ThePrettyDamned said:

Seriously, does anyone think he, or his pug, are actually literally nazis?

Personally I don’t think the guy is a nazi...

as for the dog?...

he was just following orders!....

Legionreturns · April 2018

There are plenty of people who are professionally offended on a daily basis. Perhaps they will now be employed by lawyers to find them work.

*ring ring*

"Hello. We understand you were recently offended and it wasn't your fault. You could be due thousands in compensation"

Etc etc

Strangefan · April 2018

Jeez God damn snowflakes.

Jalapeno · April 2018

Emp_Fab said:

To quote Stephen Fry... "It's now very common to hear people say, 'I'm rather offended by that.' As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more... than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well, so fucking what."

Whilst I agree with mega-mind on this, I'm pretty sure he'd be far less tolerant on topics very close to his heart such as mental illness issues and gay rights.

Jalapeno · April 2018

Emp_Fab said:

In other news, I've just spotted that this is my one-thousandth thread on the forum.

A thousand??? That can't be right!

I agree, it feels like a lot more

MattBanshee · April 2018

The owner is a bonafide nazi too though. He was chumming up with Tommy Robinson at the court case. Also, any joke which involves laughing whilst repeatedly saying "gas the Jews" deserves to be dealt with under law.

Also, I have a pug and they are dumb as a bag of rocks. To train it to do something like that would involve loads and loads of repeated practice and training, so it would have taken a huge amount of effort for something that is supposed to be 'just a joke'.

Bucket · April 2018

Jalapeno said:

Emp_Fab said:

To quote Stephen Fry... "It's now very common to hear people say, 'I'm rather offended by that.' As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more... than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well, so fucking what."

Whilst I agree with mega-mind on this, I'm pretty sure he'd be far less tolerant on topics very close to his heart such as mental illness issues and gay rights.

Well I doubt he'd flake out and call for the offender to be prosecuted.

I imagine he'd argue his point on it, which is his right.

digitalscream · April 2018

MattBanshee said:

The owner is a bonafide nazi too though.

Based on what? How many videos of his have you watched? Because if you've watched any (including the one at the centre of this), you'd realise that the whole point is that he's the opposite of a "bonafide nazi". He's said again and again that the "Nazi" approach was taken because it's the most offensive thing he could think of.

MattBanshee said:

He was chumming up with Tommy Robinson at the court case.

I didn't realise that associating with somebody who holds views you don't like means that you automatically hold those views too. When did that rule come into effect?

MattBanshee said:

Also, I have a pug and they are dumb as a bag of rocks. To train it to do something like that would involve loads and loads of repeated practice and training, so it would have taken a huge amount of effort for something that is supposed to be 'just a joke'.

That's part of the joke, that he was willing to go to such lengths. Also, roughly half of dogs are more intelligent than the average for their breed, by definition.

Legionreturns · April 2018

Succinctly put @digitalscream ; ...

When I read that post I may have sworn.

The erosion of our right to speak freely is gathering pace and some people, that think they are liberals, seem only too happy about it. Doesn't make sense! Liberalism is about freedom, not rules to protect the overly sensitive.

Kilgore · April 2018

Ridiculous to prosecute, but like most Nazis, I bet the dog has never even read Mein Kampf.

Bucket · April 2018

MattBanshee said:

Also, any joke which involves laughing whilst repeatedly saying "gas the Jews" deserves to be dealt with under law.

Even when the context is made perfectly clear and it is obvious that absolutely no anti-Semitic malice was intended whatsoever? It's amazing how many people see fit to call themselves liberals and then would be quite happy for freedom of speech to be thrown in the sea over a stupid joke.

Funkfingers · April 2018

In my opinion, the saluting pug case is just another example of legislation being misapplied to normal human behaviours.

Kilgore said:

I bet the dog has never even read Mein Kampf.

I have attempted to read both Mein Kampf and Kapital. Neither is a bundle of larfs. I gave up on both pretty quickly.

Bucket said:

MattBanshee said:

Jews

anti-Semitic

Jew and Semite are not directly interchangeable.

bingefeller · April 2018

For a Scottish bloke he has quite a good German accent.

fob · April 2018

He nails it here:

digitalscream · April 2018

Legionreturns said:

The erosion of our right to speak freely is gathering pace and some people, that think they are liberals, seem only too happy about it. Doesn't make sense! Liberalism is about freedom, not rules to protect the overly sensitive.

This is the real worry. There are only a handful of occasions where a so-called "democratic" government has ever relaxed its grip on the behaviour of its population, yet there are several orders of magnitude more occasions where it's tightened it.

When viewed in that context...you have to ask people how many loosely-defined freedoms they want to give up forever?

Bellycaster · April 2018

fob said:

He nails it here:

Put bluntly, the Journalist is a Cunt! Imagine my Shock

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