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I've owned several Gibson custom shops, throughout the years and some old Gibsons as well.
But I feel I'm preaching to the choir here, which is actually good, means I get to buy more of these amazing guitars.
Or you can buy an Indonesian copy of your favourite guitar and just be blown away by how good it is. The stars and the glue align and you just happen to have a great guitar.
It's difficult to justify your "replica" when you are holding a great guitar.
I'm being argumentative because I am in both camps. I own both.
A great guitar is just that, regardless of how much it cost, what it says on the headstock, and where it was made.
I have played two high end replica's that were just good joinery and not good instruments.
(formerly miserneil)
i also have some lovely old African mahogany and found honduran more hit and miss weight wise, over here anyway, i met a guy that had a saw mill in Africa and he was looking to pack up a good few years ago
(formerly customkits)
Weight is okay, but not super light.
this kinda relates to a conversation I was having with Marc at mojo. I have ordered 3 staples from him and I mentioned I would be able to compare against an original. He mentioned he had tweaked the wind for better matching wit other Pickups and it may not sound the same. It never occurred to me for one second they would sound the same.... what are the chances that Marc’s reference staples are the same as my one vintage example? Very slim
the same applies to any PAF tone. The winders reference point will almost always be different to the players.... more so if they are both basing it on real PAF’s.
anyway... very shortly I will be able to compare 50’s wood and Pickups with a khaya/sycamore body, Honduran/Indian neck and mojo staple p-90 set. Then there will be a khaya/Honduran body with Honduran/ebony neck and mojo staple/staple combo... I also have a laminated Honduran with Indian board that may get the staple/staple combo for a while.
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He has access to carbon dating and metallurgy analysis and he is capable of building anything that can sit with the best out there.
He is not in awe in the way that we are. Gibson just did what they did at the time and there was no secret ingredient.
It boils down to a great instrument being just that, a great instrument.
He has access to carbon dating and metallurgy analysis and he is capable of building anything that can sit with the best out there.
He is not in awe in the way that we are. Gibson just did what they did at the time and there was no secret ingredient.
Alot of the old tones we hear on records are played through god knows what amp then recorded etc, it's all subjective with pafs so i stick with one maker now and don't chase around anymore, I've done back to backs and it's splitting hairs imo
(formerly customkits)
@customkits that is the only way to base our own views on, our own experience.
What did I get wrong? The species of wood? Not being arsey, just interested and not wishing to spread mid-information
(formerly miserneil)
(formerly customkits)
You are not spreading mis-information! You just got BK's name wrong! Not important and perhaps wise!
You need the leaf and bark to identify the actual species, that's what got told to kew gardens from the head at merton college who does know a bit about wood
None of this really matters apart from is it good, i like vintage tones so that's what i try and get close to
I like limba as a guitar wood, sounds great to me
(formerly customkits)
Exactly. That's basics for those in the know.
I exclude myself. I just play the things.
It should play sound look and feel how you want, that's all that matters
(formerly customkits)
A great guitar is a great guitar regardless. It doesn't matter if it was made 60 years ago or this afternoon.
But the best Les Paul I've played to date remains my TH R7. I know they pricing is the steep side of steep, and I am not bothered about all the blather of correct plastics etc. etc. etc. I truly don't care. I just know it's an absolutely fantastic example of what the Gibson Custom shop can do - and is an incredible instrument.
As has been said - a great guitar is a great guitar. And between the Ryders and the R7 I am pretty happy.