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I’ve been experimenting with the Obsidian pedal, as it’s based on a preamp pedal and with a couple of drives.
OCD with a TS boosting it. I got a quite nice ‘emergency metal’ tone for if my amp died.
That’s also using the Ownhammer Mesa 4x12 V30 IR
Inspired by this thread I switched off the amp modelling in mt GSP1101 and instead scrolled through the various distortion pedal models and they sounded really good. I would need to try this out properly but I think it sounded more natural and 'real' than the amp modelling. I was running this into a cab via a power amp but as Ross did above I guess you could just run this into a modelled cab or IR and you are good to go for FRFR or recording.
It made me think of the below video where Ola runs the Metal Zone into the FX return of his amp, as opposed to the guitar input. The Death Metal model in my GSP1101 sounds bloody brilliant into the FX return of my TH30!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxRe99Tjlwg&t=401s
BTW, I love the Hedgehog D9, a pedal I would never have tried in real life because I always thought it was a tubescreamer clone. The D9 going into the right IR (forgot which one I'm using) sounds good to me.
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The GSP1101 doesn't have that option, so presumably a power amp is always being modelled...so that should not be optimal into the fx return of an amp. But that's how most people seem to think it sounds best.
Now there's this stuff about using modelled pedals as full pre-amps. Obviously no power amp modelling going on there. So, should that sound good into an IR for FRFR or recording? It seems to.
Is all the marketing stuff about modelling the whole signal chain really true?
I'm so confused.
I play guitar and take photos of stuff. I also like beans on toast.
What is the actual difference between a model of a high gain amp and the model of a high gain pedal in the Helix or GSP1101 or whatever...is it just that one is tuned to make it sound like a particular amp? If a modelling amp is played in a forest and nobody is there to say it is an amp or a pedal...is there a difference
I just fired up the HD500 into the FX return of my amp and tried this out. I loaded up a high gain patch I'd made recently with the ENGL amp. I replaced the amp with the various onboard distortion boxes and they sounded pretty great after a little tweaking. I suppose in this kind of situation there isn't really much difference between a pre-amp sim and a dirt-pedal sim other than the latter has way fewer controls - though that's not necessarily a bad thing.