Music - What grinds your gears?

fob · July 2020

Bad mastering.

Exemplified by the loudness wars, this is really just contempt for the fans.

lasermonkey · July 2020

@cirrus absolutely bang-on there!

Redlester · July 2020

Totally agree with Cirrus re fadeouts. Not only are they a perfectly legitimate and musically valid way of ending a track, from a practical point of view they lend themselves to broadcasting.

dindude · August 2020

Music that hits the buffers from the off and has no dynamics, no excuse not even in pop songs. My kids have been listening to Katy Perry, possible the best (worst) example of this.

Bellycaster · August 2020

Jonathangus said:

Singers who demonstrate their incredible vocal control by embellishing every single note instead of singing me a goddamn tune.

Is this what I call "Warbling"?

UnclePsychosis · August 2020

This is maybe a comment on guitarists more than music but I (generally) hate music that's written by guitarists, for guitarists.

Litterick · August 2020

Glasto anthems.

stickyfiddle · August 2020

Whiny singers. For example, I want to love the Smashing Pumpkins and I think they had some really great songs. I've tried, but I can't do it.

Grumpyrocker · August 2020

Fadeouts. There's a reason Sorrow live is better, it ends properly.
Guest vocalists whose sole contribution is to go "oh yeah" "uha" "that's right" etc.
The millennial whoop
Eight/nine-string metal riffing. Leave some space for your bass player please. If your riff isn't heavy on a standard tuned 6-string, it's probably a shit riff.
Metal where you can't hear the bass guitar
That bit in metal videos where the screen shakes like Saving Private Ryan just because someone plays a heavy riff
The assumption (often by the BBC) that Glasto covers "all" music.
Pop singers who cram as many notes as possible and at great length into just one word
The crappy backing tracks some guitar instrumentalists create instead of writing complete songs. Love Satch, but his early work is very guilty of this.
Queen
Yes I'll join everyone else with songs that have been John Lewissed
Metal gatekeeping - yes the singer is a girl, no that doesn't mean it's "just" pop music, fuck off
The lack of widespread recognition of the brilliance of Adrian Smith.
The shouty bloke from the B52s. What's that about?
That Ronnie James Dio is dead

Jonathangus · August 2020

Bellycaster said:

Jonathangus said:

Singers who demonstrate their incredible vocal control by embellishing every single note instead of singing me a goddamn tune.

Is this what I call "Warbling"?

Not heard it called that, but this, basically:

Grumpyrocker said:

Pop singers who cram as many notes as possible and at great length into just one word

UnclePsychosis · August 2020

stickyfiddle said:

Whiny singers. For example, I want to love the Smashing Pumpkins and I think they had some really great songs. I've tried, but I can't do it.

... Fair enough. But haven't you posted previously about loving Muse? Matt Bellamy is about as whiny as they come...

(apologies if wrong)

phil_b · August 2020

Grumpyrocker said:
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Queen

not quite fair . It is the hype around Queen that is the problem and this is a recent development .

Listening to Queen in the 80's when they were not so fashionable was a different experience.

EricTheWeary · August 2020

Jonathangus said:

Bellycaster said:

Jonathangus said:

Singers who demonstrate their incredible vocal control by embellishing every single note instead of singing me a goddamn tune.

Is this what I call "Warbling"?

Not heard it called that, but this, basically:

Grumpyrocker said:

Pop singers who cram as many notes as possible and at great length into just one word

I felt I was above posting on a Grind Your Gears discussion but I have to say absolutely this ^, the X Factor type of singing where you can ignore the melody as long as you throw in a big note at the end.

When I went to see Ball and Boe ( hey, I had free tickets) what I got was popular entertainer Michael Ball doing this all evening, I don’t think he knew the tune to anything, and Alfie Boe actually singing melodies - I think I’d previously lost faith that there’s anyone left alive who can actually carry a tune. Not that I’m particularly bothered about a singer needing to be all that technically competent, I’m fine with a Lemmy or a Lightnin Hopkins or even a Rex Harrison, but it’s that kind of faux melodic singing that becomes so wearing.

phil_b · August 2020

buskers with PA's that are just to loud

the annoyance grows the more mediocre the performance

Philly_Q · August 2020

stickyfiddle said:

Whiny singers. For example, I want to love the Smashing Pumpkins and I think they had some really great songs. I've tried, but I can't do it.

I didn't begin to find Billy Corgan's whiny voice irritating until the quality of his songwriting fell off a cliff. Now I find him unlistenable.

Keiko · August 2020

Maybe because I'm old but it's songs that try to be "exciting" and high energy. Or singers with way too much energy who try to make a song sound exciting by shouting and screaming "wow" and "yeah" all over the place. Eg the datsuns, the hives, hush by kula shaker. Hard to handle by black crowes. Annoying, just calm down mate.

It's a fine line. I can tolerate some high energy stuff but a lot of it is poorly done.

Philly_Q · August 2020

Grumpyrocker said:
The assumption (often by the BBC) that Glasto covers "all" music.

Well said. And in the unlikely event they do feature a band I like, it'll be about 30 seconds and the presenters will say something sarcastic and smirk about it.

Grumpyrocker · August 2020

Philly_Q said:

Grumpyrocker said:
The assumption (often by the BBC) that Glasto covers "all" music.

Well said. And in the unlikely event they do feature a band I like, it'll be about 30 seconds and the presenters will say something sarcastic and smirk about it.

Exactly. A band with the gain above 12 o'clock will receive some snide comments about noisy heavy metal, despite the band being nothing of the sort.

Rocker · August 2020

I don't understand the problem some members have with the band Queen. Brilliant shows, amazing front man, music that has lasted and still sounds good. What is there not to like? Or at least not to hate?

Springywheel · August 2020

I hate the Ibanez lead guitar tone.

I hate modern metal production.

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