Password managers ?

Emp_Fab · February 2021

I've been using Lastpass for quite a while - and it's on my laptop, computer, phone and iPad. Now they're moving to a subscription model - which is one of the latest trends that I hate. In their case, they're implementing a strange version; you pay a subscription fee for each device type you use it on. In my case, that means four subscriptions! I am happy to pay a one-off fee for a product but I won't sign up for this.

Who uses password managers and can you recommend any that don't operate a subscription model ?

Chris.B · February 2021

I've just bought a subscription to Lastpass and it covers all my devices, without multiple fees.

I would have preferred to stay on the free version, but I think the fee introduction was inevitable.

wibble · February 2021

I don't know why you figure it's 4 subscriptions.

It's one subscription or you can stay on the free tier which is now restricted to one device type - you choose to use it free on mobile or free on computers.

poopot · February 2021

Do you need a password manager?

surely it’s easy to remember “emp1234”

chromatuna · February 2021

I use Lastpass and my understanding is that you now have to pay a subscription if you wish to use it on multiple devices - just the one subscription. They are limiting the free version to a single device. I am happy to pay a sub as it's rather good and my online security is worth it.

What's changing in LastPass Free?

Beginning March 16, 2021, LastPass Free will include access on one device type of your choice. The first device you login with on or after March 16 will set your active device typt

vasselmeyer · February 2021

Try Bitwarden. Open source and free, unlike Lastpass which is owned by Teamviwer. They'll reel you in with a "free" offer and then change the rules and charge you. They're known for it.

fastonebaz · February 2021

Thycotic

SteveRobinson · February 2021

Lastpass is also full of trackers
https://www.theregister.com/2021/02/25/lastpass_android_trackers_found/

guitartango · February 2021

Keepass or password safe

Password Safe (pwsafe.org)

Emp_Fab · February 2021

Oh.... I appear to have misunderstood the switch! I thought it was one subscription per machine type! Either way, I'm not a fan of subscription models, so I'll check out some of the suggestions so far. Thanks.

Grunfeld · February 2021

guitartango said:

Keepass or password safe....

Big fan of KeePass -- free, secure, and simple. I sync the password file across all devices with Google Drive and have stand alone versions of KeePass on my Android, iPad, and W10 machines. I also keep a copy of the file on a USB stick on my key ring.

strtdv · February 2021

I write my passwords on a piece of paper which I keep at home, because there's very little overlap in the type of criminal who breaks into your home to steal things and the kind of criminal who is interested in your online accounts

bcjim · February 2021

I have a paid family(?) subscription to LastPass. I use it on iPhone, iPad and my Windows PCs. Wife uses it as well and we share passwords for utilities, shops, bank etc. Works well and worth the money, I think.

Jim.

notanon · March 2021

Keepass is intuitive and useful features I have to log into several dozen different applications and systems every day.

Lodious · March 2021

I've been using LastPass for a while, I've no problem with paying for it, but I'd want it to work if I'm paying and it just seems too flaky to pay for it.

Bod · March 2021

vasselmeyer said:

Try Bitwarden. Open source and free, unlike Lastpass which is owned by Teamviwer. They'll reel you in with a "free" offer and then change the rules and charge you. They're known for it.

It's owned by LogMeIn, not TeamViewer, but you're right, it's standard practice for LogMeIn. I was a paying customer of LastPass before LogMeIn bought them, and saw this move coming from the way they handled business with their remote control offering, which caused people to flock to TeamViewer, myself included.

I have to say, I'm not adverse to paying for their service, but their mobile app has never worked well for me so it's given me the push to look elsewhere. I have to say that since switching to BitWarden, I can't believe I didn't do it sooner. It works really well, including the mobile app, and I don't mind stumping up £10 a year for a sub for that.

Bod · March 2021

strtdv said:

I write my passwords on a piece of paper which I keep at home, because there's very little overlap in the type of criminal who breaks into your home to steal things and the kind of criminal who is interested in your online accounts

Agreed, but there's more to it than that. It makes it possible to have unique, long, complicated passwords without ever having to look them up or remember them. Hackers don't have to have access to your password to break into your account. Having a password manager generate a 30 character password for something pretty much eliminates the possibilty of a brute force attack.

Emp_Fab · March 2021

@vasselmeyer Thanks for the tip mate - I've switched over to BitWarden, and it's a lot better than Lastpass too!

oaf · March 2021

You can self host BitWarden too, the Rust (bitwarden_rs) version is very easy to setup with docker.

Almach · March 2021

Can't you just use a password protected spreadsheet to store all your accounts and associated passwords ?

fastonebaz · March 2021

Almach said:

Can't you just use a password protected spreadsheet to store all your accounts and associated passwords ?

I could crack your password protected spreadsheet in under a minute if I had it.

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