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Jack Leach?
*An Official Foo-Approved guitarist since Sept 2023.
*An Official Foo-Approved guitarist since Sept 2023.
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I was watching a video of David Warner's Gray-Nicolls "Kaboom" cricket bat, and did a search on Monster Bats. This hilarious article came up:-
https://www.sportskeeda.com/cricket/monster-bat-incident-event-rules-bat-size
In recent times, October 2017, the ICC changed the regulations on cricket bat size which outlawed the Monster Bats. They claim that Monster Bats were heavily weighted (?) against the bowler with too many sixes being easily hit, and they wanted to create a level playing field, so to speak.
I think that the Monster Bats should, at least, be permitted for T20 cricket, if not test cricket. The spectators love the huge sixes. T20 is the form of the game which is ideal for these Monster Bats.
Here are two interesting articles concerning the outlawing of the Monster Bats:-
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-11-02/rules-governing-cricket-bat-size-a-waste-of-time/9113018
https://www.itsjustcricket.news/cricket-bat-size-restrictions-will-actually-make-difference/
the whole approach to batting and equipment has changed out of all scale in the past 25 years. Whereas bowlers are still doing what they did 250 years ago (ish).
I still fail to see why a bowler should not be able to bowl the ball by throwing
The volume of the bat makes no difference.
Force= mass x acceleration.
Bats are lighter these days than 25 yrs ago
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Incorrect.
Bats, especially Indian bats, are far thinner around the shoulder area than in previous times, which is where the bat will flex most. Also, many players are using long handles and short blades- the longer the handle, the less stiff the bat.
I do agree in principle that having a stiffer handle and shoulder area will assist performance- that's why I have my bats made with super stiff thick handles and big shoulders.
Pressing- again, totally wrong- good pressing is optimised to the cleft in question - pressing a bat lightly will have a negative effect- in simple terms, if the bat is pressed lightly,, the surface will fail plastically. If there's dents from ball impact, then that means energy is being absorbed into the face of the bat. You want to to fail elastically, via case hardening, which means pressing well. If you overpress you'll delaminate the bat face from the bat structure in time.
The reason you can get bigger light bats is the drying process, not the pressing.
The real differences are:
1. Willow is far more regular in growth time and grain structure now and there's a greater supply of good willow as there's more produced.
2. Controlled moisture content via dehumidified kiln drying- people have learned that handles and blades need different moisture content and that 10 per cent in a pro bat or 12 percent in a shop bat is the optimum, with handles at 8%
3. Better knowledge of shapes- as a simple example, you'll rarely see a top class pro using a bat with a low middle. The key part of the shape of the bat is getting the middle as high and deep as possible under the centre of gravity of the bat.
4. Players train to hit the ball - range hitting
5. Players are a lot stronger than they were even 20 yrs ago.
6. Balls are harder, esp in whiteball when there's 2 balls.
7. Faces are pressed MUCH flatter which also aids the optical illusion of greater volume (and gives a thicker edge, admittedly)- it also means players hit straighter generally when playing straight bat shots.
Whichever way you cut it, if swung at the same velocity and assuming similar handle and willow characteristics, a bat of 3lbs from 1985 will hit the ball further than a bat of 2.10 in the modern era- that is simple, basic physics.
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Top edges going for six is nothing new.
Modern bats are way more forgiving. It's like comparing persimmon drivers to modern graphite huge sweet spot drivers. No comparison at all.
And yes it's easier to hit sixes. Better technique, stronger players, shorter boundaries, and equipment that makes it easier to hit sixes. And that's the bottom line, equipment that makes it easier to do things.
So let's just enjoy Imran smoking Greg Thomas instead. A proper six yes it's in the right spot when you press play. Just give it a minute.
So a question for any of you - Do the likes of Kohli, Kane Williamson + others who play 20/20 ODI and Test Match at a high level, do they use a different size/weight/depth bat for test cricket, with a view to 'stroking' the ball thru' the covers as against needing the power for 20/20 and ODI - Maybe the likes of Pant don't as they have that constant 'attack' mode regardless
Some do, some don't.
Kohli is 2.10, Kane is 2.8- Kane likes precisely 10% moisture, 12 grains. Kane uses the same....
More often they'll go from light to heavy though.
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Warner demands 20 pairs of gloves per test and new boots for each one. He is, apparently, a complete a-hole to the bat companies and most of those bats will be down to him going through them until he scores runs with one and suddenly decides he likes it. Also, he's using Spartan at the moment, who don't make bats and use a load of subbies and it's pretty much pot luck.
Again, volume makes little difference. Weight does.
The biggest reason for that is the face pressing. If you press the face convex, as in days of old versus pressing flat, as now, the edge of the bat is no longer rolled, so whilst the edge appears thicker, the depth of the bat isn't as significantly bigger.
That has far more to do with the power, intent and speed of swing that the actual bat.
In a simple observation, if, as you are convinced, the bat is pressed softer, what will happen when the ball hits the edge (which is an angle)? In basic terms the edge will deform and dent. That means it's absorbed, not transferred energy.
Bats are not pressed very differently at all (as an e.g. Grays and GM still use 70 yr old manual presses- all that's changed is the press roller which shapes the face flatter) but what has changed is that the willow is grown better with more consistent grain structure and growing times without false growth years.
What has changed is that good bats are easier for the public to get hold of due to the improved growing and drying processes.
A super big bat like Warner's is a myth in terms of how it improves your performance. Firstly, it's harder to swing fast due to air resistance and also there is less accuracy.
Lastly, the big bat/soft press thing- Imagine a grade 50c tool steel hammer head weighing 2lbs, and a pillow with an aluminium case also weighing 2lbs?
Which will hit a nail harder? Which could you swing more accurately? Which could you swing faster? The answers to those questions are obvious.
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Rashid Khan is currently the top T20 bowler in the world and his career bowling stats across all three formats are ridiculous.
https://i.imgur.com/XwoG0n6.png
Afghanistan are battering Zimbabwe right now. After 545-5 declared, they bowled Zimbabwe out for 287. Rashid took 4 for 138 from 36.3 overs. 3 maidens in total out of all of that. When a dude with stats like him ain't bowling maiden after maiden despite bowling on a turning track at home against Zimbabwe, then it does point to batsmen being more able to rotate strike (well, non-English batsmen anyhow) and thus stopping the maiden over from happening.
I enjoyed reading your posts very much.
I have an old, unused Duncan Fearnley Size H bat (I use a Size SH bat, but I got this one cheaply), which is very light and beautifully balanced. Its pick-up is as light as a feather - great for playing air cover drives in my living room. LOL
I found two Monster Bats available from www.cjicricket.com:-
1. CJI Fatso F500 Limited Edition
2. CJI Sumo Trojan Limited Edition
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LATEST-CJI-FATSO-F500-LIMITED-EDITION-RED-Full-Size-weight-3lb-12ozs-Extras/173762550584?hash=item28750e1b38:g:0bwAAOSwWrNcTGKW
There is/was even one weighing in at 4lbs. These are clearly intended for training purposes only, or for attacking burglars.
I am tempted to get a lighter, but maximum thickness one, before they disappear forever. Future generations would be amazed at their size!!!
PS: That picture of Barry Richards holding a Gray-Nicolls "Kaboom" bat is just awesome.