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Its also why I think a lot (not all) of people think modelled amps sound nothing like the originals. Because they've never really pushed whichever original they've tried.
I get what you are saying but my amp, which I built myself, has no FX loop.
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A lot of variables here, what is the size of room? What Amp are you using? How much drive do you want?
Bogner Blue and similar can do all levels of Gain.
Acoustic Guitars are quite loud, IMO, when played hard. You may be wanting a decent tone at a whisper. That's a challenge.
It is possible, if I can get a decent sound with the right gear, anyone can.
So does the blackstar id core 20 I've got somewhere, and the Fly 3 if I recall.
Obviously nothing like a valve amp at full chat though.
That's like expecting DCS to feel like actually flying an F18!
Joyo Vintage Overdrive (tubescreamer clone)
Both very good. the Bad Monkey is particularly "creamy" if you know what I mean.
@Rocker it is entirely possible to get a decent clean and drive sound out of an amp at acoustic guitar volumes… I’ve done you a vid…
little explanation first… recorded acoustic into logic then recorded electric DI into logic…
I then reamped the electric DI into my pedal board and amp and played along to the recorded acoustic in my cans…
the live audio was recorded on my iPhone, it’s not the audio from logic… what you are hearing is live acoustic and reamped electric at the same time… so two poopots at once…(you can even hear my pond in the background as I had the studio door open)
you can see in the vid when I switch on a drive pedal… noodling first then chords afterwards…
https://youtu.be/t3VW9PDp0SM
it’s not rocket science…set your amps clean volume… then turn the volume knob on the drive pedal down so it’s not blasting out of the amp… simples!!!!
And if anyone has a problem with that, they are the ones with a problem.
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To be honest, most of my home playing (if I'm actually plugged in) is at very low volumes. Much, much quieter than an acoustic guitar. And like other people are saying, I do that by using the 'level' control of my drives, I always have done. Because a big amp can be too loud even at its lowest volume, so you need some addition volume control.
At the moment I'm using a Nobels ODR-1 and a RAT style pedal. I can turn the drive/distortion up to max if I want, but still can have whisper quiet volumes by turning the 'level' control right down. I'm pretty sure all the drive pedals I've ever had have been able to do this.
Or am I misunderstanding something?
Try setting it with the clean off (for now), and the gain, tone and volume all about halfway. Adjust from there as necessary. I'd be amazed if you can't get a pretty overdriven sound *quieter* than the bypass like that.
Once you've got a 'fuzzy' sound you like, reintroduce some of the clean sound which should give you a clearer, more 'early 70s' type sound.
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The 'acoustic guitar' bit. Two friends call every couple of weeks, since the lockdown effectively ended, to sing and play a few songs. One majors on singing but he plays an acoustic guitar unamplified. The second plays acoustic guitar, 12 string acoustic guitar and bazooka, his 6 and 12 string instruments have pickups and I normally setup an old bass amp but at very low volume for his use. I use an electric guitar through my twin amp setup, again at very low volume. The low volume is because the singer does not use a microphone and we don't want to drown his output which is better than most singers I know. For intros, lead breaks etc., I use an LPB boost pedal which effectively doubles my guitar volume but not enough to cause noticeable distortion from my Stinger amp.
So my quest for low volume driven sound seems destined to end in failure. Just noticed your contribution @ICBM, thank you, I will give it a whirl tomorrow. Even if what I seek is impossible, we get tremendous enjoyment from these sessions, it makes all the practice, during lockdown, worth it.
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Although you'll probably need that massive increase in volume to keep up with the bazooka!
My electric guitar volume is more or less the same as the acoustic guitars. Close enough that I can hear the acoustic guitars. The boost pedal ups the guitar volume to make the intros, lead breaks etc. stand out. The SparkleDrive has the same effect as the boost pedal, it boosts the guitar volume. I had hoped that the SparkleDrive would give me a more driven sound but so far, no joy on that front.
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