So, how did he do that?

TTony · January 2022

Just watch a minute or so from ~5mins in. (For some reason I couldn't get the YT vid to start from the correct place in the link).

Q1 - I'm *guessing* that he's used a drop of superglue to keep the pickup springs in place when he drop the pickup into the hole?

Q2 - How does he lift the pickup high enough for the screws to bite into the hole in the pickup bracket/frame to start to lift the pickup up in the body to the right height? OK, perhaps, for the neck pickup, he can reach a finger in from the bridge pickup cavity, but how could you get the bridge pickup in the right place?

Any thoughts oh wiser-ones-than-me?

WezV · January 2022

Agree on q1.

Q2, all done with mirrors.... or maybe even magnets

poopot · January 2022

Prolly the fact that pickups are magnetic?

tbh I had a harder time getting past watching him bash the tuner ferrules in with a hammer!!!! Not great practice that!.

Danny1969 · January 2022

The spring guides the bolt to the right place and when it bites it lifts the pickup up, the bolt just has to be long enough and there has to be further travel for the bolt under the pickup .....

Unless I'm missing something

TTony · January 2022

WezV said:

Q2, all done with mirrors.... or maybe even magnets

I wondered about magnets! Either that, or some thin (not sticky) tape under the pickup with the ends sticking up above the body to be able to pull it into position?

Cheers @WezV ;

Danny1969 said: the bolt just has to be long enough and there has to be further travel for the bolt under the pickup .....

I didn't think the screw/bolt was that long though - at least, not normally. I need to experiment.

poopot · January 2022

Danny1969 said:

The spring guides the bolt to the right place and when it bites it lifts the pickup up, the bolt just has to be long enough and there has to be further travel for the bolt under the pickup .....

Unless I'm missing something

If you watch the pickup is dropped into the cavity and the screws don’t quite reach the holes in the legs… so he needs to raise the pickup for the screw to bite…

just fast forward past the bits where he’s using a hammer to put the tuner ferrules in and also the collets for the bridge I’ve just noticed… try that with any sort of decent finish on the guitar and it’s crack city

robinbowes · January 2022

poopot said:

Prolly the fact that pickups are magnetic?

tbh I had a harder time getting past watching him bash the tuner ferrules in with a hammer!!!! Not great practice that!.

I found this out the hard way

WezV · January 2022

TTony said:

WezV said:

Q2, all done with mirrors.... or maybe even magnets

I wondered about magnets! Either that, or some thin (not sticky) tape under the pickup with the ends sticking up above the body to be able to pull it into position?

He probably just uses that hammer he is waving around, or any other lump of magnetic metal

poopot · January 2022

robinbowes said:

poopot said:

Prolly the fact that pickups are magnetic?

tbh I had a harder time getting past watching him bash the tuner ferrules in with a hammer!!!! Not great practice that!.

I found this out the hard way

Most people do!…

ftumch · January 2022

As far as the ferrules go, i've been watching Ben's videos for about 5 years, he's very careful and very particular in his methods. I think he probably knows what he's doing. I love watching his vids and feel like I need to defend him in his absence

Danny1969 · January 2022

TTony said:

WezV said:

Q2, all done with mirrors.... or maybe even magnets

I wondered about magnets! Either that, or some thin (not sticky) tape under the pickup with the ends sticking up above the body to be able to pull it into position?

Cheers @WezV ;

Danny1969 said:

the bolt just has to be long enough and there has to be further travel for the bolt under the pickup .....

I didn't think the screw/bolt was that long though - at least, not normally. I need to experiment. Ah .... actually there's loads of ways to do it, any decent double sided tape, like the kind I use for iPad screens will enable you to pick up the pickups from the top no problem ..... a dab of hot glue will work too and both will just rub off with your thumb after.

Danielsguitars · January 2022

ftumch said:

As far as the ferrules go, i've been watching Ben's videos for about 5 years, he's very careful and very particular in his methods. I think he probably knows what he's doing. I love watching his vids and feel like I need to defend him in his absence

I'd like to see him hammer away on a nitro finish and not fuck it up or a nice metallic

ftumch · January 2022

Danielsguitars said:

ftumch said:

As far as the ferrules go, i've been watching Ben's videos for about 5 years, he's very careful and very particular in his methods. I think he probably knows what he's doing. I love watching his vids and feel like I need to defend him in his absence

I'd like to see him hammer away on a nitro finish and not fuck it up or a nice metallic

It wasn't though was it and he didn't fuck it up did he. Rolleyes

Fuengi · January 2022

As Danny said, my bet would be masking tape in a loop to use as a makeshift handle on top of the pickup. A couple of turns on each screw and you're away.

poopot · January 2022

ftumch said:

Danielsguitars said:

ftumch said:

As far as the ferrules go, i've been watching Ben's videos for about 5 years, he's very careful and very particular in his methods. I think he probably knows what he's doing. I love watching his vids and feel like I need to defend him in his absence

I'd like to see him hammer away on a nitro finish and not fuck it up or a nice metallic

It wasn't though was it and he didn't fuck it up did he. Rolleyes

Roll your eyes as much as you want… it’s not best practice really… just to add, if you cant “press” the ferrules in, the hole is too small!!!!

TTony · January 2022

ftumch said:

As far as the ferrules go, i've been watching Ben's videos for about 5 years, he's very careful and very particular in his methods. I think he probably knows what he's doing. I love watching his vids and feel like I need to defend him in his absence

He’s a bit of a YT “personality” for sure @ftumch and his stuff is generally interesting, even if I sometimes wonder whether he’s really that mad. Demonstrates that there are plenty of ways to build guitars, and plenty of ways to design them too.

I tuned in to a bit of his “watch me make a guitar in a day” video a couple of weeks ago. Something like 1500 people watching.

Naturally, Ben being Ben, it took him 3 days rather than 1 to get the guitar built. Not sure whether that made it 3x interesting, or just frustrating!

Danielsguitars · January 2022

ftumch said:

Danielsguitars said:

ftumch said:

As far as the ferrules go, i've been watching Ben's videos for about 5 years, he's very careful and very particular in his methods. I think he probably knows what he's doing. I love watching his vids and feel like I need to defend him in his absence

I'd like to see him hammer away on a nitro finish and not fuck it up or a nice metallic

It wasn't though was it and he didn't fuck it up did he. Rolleyes

He presume he has a press ( rolleyes )use that, another thing about hammering in is if you use sunken ferrules like vintage ones, which is my preference you can control the depth so they sit perfectly flush

I don't watch him tbh, everyone finds their own way to build so no need to roll your eyes again, I won't

ftumch · January 2022

TTony said:

ftumch said:

As far as the ferrules go, i've been watching Ben's videos for about 5 years, he's very careful and very particular in his methods. I think he probably knows what he's doing. I love watching his vids and feel like I need to defend him in his absence

He’s a bit of a YT “personality” for sure @ftumch and his stuff is generally interesting, even if I sometimes wonder whether he’s really that mad. Demonstrates that there are plenty of ways to build guitars, and plenty of ways to design them too.

I tuned in to a bit of his “watch me make a guitar in a day” video a couple of weeks ago. Something like 1500 people watching.

Naturally, Ben being Ben, it took him 3 days rather than 1 to get the guitar built. Not sure whether that made it 3x interesting, or just frustrating!

Still not finished, it's going in to day 5 I think

(if it's the same guitar) He could probably have finished it if he wasn't nattering so much but that's just Ben. I've got to say a lot of the crimson stuff is not to my taste but I just enjoy the process.

Danielsguitars said:

ftumch said:

Danielsguitars said:

ftumch said:

As far as the ferrules go, i've been watching Ben's videos for about 5 years, he's very careful and very particular in his methods. I think he probably knows what he's doing. I love watching his vids and feel like I need to defend him in his absence

I'd like to see him hammer away on a nitro finish and not fuck it up or a nice metallic

It wasn't though was it and he didn't fuck it up did he. Rolleyes

He presume he has a press ( rolleyes )use that, another thing about hammering in is if you use sunken ferrules like vintage ones, which is my preference you can control the depth so they sit perfectly flush

I don't watch him tbh, everyone finds their own way to build so no need to roll your eyes again, I won't

That's it though isn't it, everyone has their own way of doing things, no need to try and make him look bad, he's quite capable by my reckoning. No offense meant.

TTony · January 2022

ftumch said:

TTony said:

ftumch said:

As far as the ferrules go, i've been watching Ben's videos for about 5 years, he's very careful and very particular in his methods. I think he probably knows what he's doing. I love watching his vids and feel like I need to defend him in his absence

He’s a bit of a YT “personality” for sure @ftumch and his stuff is generally interesting, even if I sometimes wonder whether he’s really that mad. Demonstrates that there are plenty of ways to build guitars, and plenty of ways to design them too.

I tuned in to a bit of his “watch me make a guitar in a day” video a couple of weeks ago. Something like 1500 people watching.

Naturally, Ben being Ben, it took him 3 days rather than 1 to get the guitar built. Not sure whether that made it 3x interesting, or just frustrating!

Still not finished, it's going in to day 5 I think (if it's the same guitar) He could probably have finished it if he wasn't nattering so much but that's just Ben. I've got to say a lot of the crimson stuff is not to my taste but I just enjoy the process.

LOLz

I watched quite a bit of the first one, then 2 on catch-up highlights, and just assumed that he’d finally get it finished on the third day - I’ve not watched day 3 yet.

Sounds like I need to find time to watch day 3, day 4 AND day 5 ...

ICBM · January 2022

TTony said:

Q1 - I'm *guessing* that he's used a drop of superglue to keep the pickup springs in place when he drop the pickup into the hole?

Not superglue, I don't think - too brittle, the slightest sideways push would probably break the springs off. I would use hot-melt glue, or even solder the springs to the baseplates - if the springs are nickel-plated they will solder easily.

TTony said:

Q2 - How does he lift the pickup high enough for the screws to bite into the hole in the pickup bracket/frame to start to lift the pickup up in the body to the right height? OK, perhaps, for the neck pickup, he can reach a finger in from the bridge pickup cavity, but how could you get the bridge pickup in the right place?

Fingers through the bridge pickup hole for the neck pickup, and probably some sort of tool through the soundholes for the bridge - you can see the necessary path in the title pic for the video.

Either that or make a loop of gaffer tape, sticky side out, and stick it to the top of the pickup. As long as the screws are slightly longer than the springs - which it looks like they are - they will thread into the holes before the springs put any pressure on.

TTony · January 2022

Solder - for some mad reason, I’d not thought of that! Thanks @ICBM ;

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