How to remove a speaker in my Engl combo?

imalrightjack · September 2014

Hi all,

I've got a new speaker arriving and thought I'd prep the amp - but I can't get the speaker out!

I've removed the four screws at the front and thought the grill would drop out - but it doesn't as it's seated behind the front sides.

This is the amp from the back - so you can see the screws that hold in the speaker are at the front of the amp:

I've unscrewed the 'amp' part and thought the board within might move but it doesn't seem to. However, I can't quite remove the 'amp' as it's still attached by the spring reverb cable which is very stiff/fragile - and I don't want to damage it. How do I take it out?

Any suggestions welcome!

Thanks.

ICBM · September 2014

You squeeze the grey connector - the tab you can see on the far side beyond the wires is a lever which undoes the clip that holds it in place - and it should just pull off.

ecc83 · September 2014

Not that I know the amp at all but...

Seems total idiocy to have front loaded the speaker if you have to strip so much to get it out!

Again, don't have the full picture but it seems to me that if the driver was rear mounted you could have "wiggled" it out, maybe remove the two OP valves for safety?

Dave.

ICBM · September 2014

ecc83 said:

Not that I know the amp at all but...
Seems total idiocy to have front loaded the speaker if you have to strip so much to get it out!

If you think that's bad, try getting the chassis out of an Ashdown Failing Angel…

http://www.chambonino.com/work/ashdown/ashdown-fa40.html

ecc83 · September 2014

ICBM said:

ecc83 said:

Not that I know the amp at all but...
Seems total idiocy to have front loaded the speaker if you have to strip so much to get it out!

If you think that's bad, try getting the chassis out of an Ashdown Failing Angel…

http://www.chambonino.com/work/ashdown/ashdown-fa40.html

Heh! The S 1 45 combo can be a bit of a trial! Let me know if you get one in.

Dave.

imalrightjack · September 2014

@ICBM (enormous thanks, as always) will want to strangle me now...but after reading TONS about Celestions, I read too much good stuff to ignore this at £65 delivered, brand new. And it sounds like it will do just the job

That was a bit of a faff but I wouldn't be too stressed doing it again, having it done it once. So many things I should have done 20 years ago...but I'm learning, tiny bit by tiny bit.

ICBM · September 2014

No, I won't want to strangle you - I'm not a fan of them myself but I know a lot of people are and it's very personal thing. If it sounds good to you, it is good - and well done for not giving up when it looked tricky.

imalrightjack · September 2014

Haha, that's a relief

I guess I know the amp best and perhaps can't put into words quite what I was after. When I read up on this, it seemed the natural choice. And, so far, I am very, very happy. Particularly with the ECC81.

gearaddict · September 2014

What do you think of the Engl? I came quite close to buying a Screamer 50 combo but I just found it a bit bright. I'm wondering if that's why you are looking at new speakers?

I really like the Eminence speakers in H&K amps. They seem to match them well. I wasn't so keen on the ones that came with a Roadkill 2x12 I had made...I think they were Private Jacks. I ended up swapping them for V30s and I have to say the celestions were so much smoother. I've stuck with V30s ever since.

imalrightjack · September 2014

@gearaddict

Have a read of this!

http://www.thefretboard.co.uk/discussion/22158/deciding-on-a-new-speaker-or-whether-to-ditch-an-amp#latest

strtdv · September 2014

gearaddict said:

What do you think of the Engl? I came quite close to buying a Screamer 50 combo but I just found it a bit bright. I'm wondering if that's why you are looking at new speakers?

I really like the Eminence speakers in H&K amps. They seem to match them well. I wasn't so keen on the ones that came with a Roadkill 2x12 I had made...I think they were Private Jacks. I ended up swapping them for V30s and I have to say the celestions were so much smoother. I've stuck with V30s ever since.

I think they tend to be voiced on the bright side, and I find that the upper mid spike on V30's that they use on most of their amps doesn't help it. They certainly cut through though.

I have reservations about their build quality and customer service, but a lot of them have terrible resale value so you can try a second hand one for not too much money.

The Screamer 50 combos can be had for under £500 with the extra footswitch.

imalrightjack · September 2014

I've found the customer service okay. They've provided schematics, etc. although the language barrier maybe makes it harder.

I've definitely found that an ECC81 and smoother speaker has transformed my Engl for the better.

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