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I think you should just leave. They're idiots.
"Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski
"Only two things are infinite - the universe, and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
But yes; as many have already said, just leave and find a new band.
we have done this for over 15 years (same band only a change of singer 5 years ago)
Has worked for us all this time!
They seem to be ignoring that yes, it's great to be gigging - but if you sound shit, there's no point. I'm sick of being in amateur bands; this was created by the drummer to be a 'professional' band, and I've yet to see any sign of anyone being professional.
Needless to say, I think I'll be telling them to stick the band later on today....!
There's really no excuse for anything other than the briefest bit of feedback when you're just setting the system up, which should be well before the place is full of punters.
This. While I've never been in a 'professional' band or even been paid any really serious money for a gig, it's always important to do things professionally. Take doing the job right seriously, then you will be appreciated, asked back and possibly even rewarded financially.
Anyone who thinks they're a professional but refuses to use a monitor to hear the rest of the band properly is simply not a professional, end of.
I'm amazed you haven't already!
"Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski
"Only two things are infinite - the universe, and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
After I quit yesterday, the singer emailed me saying she doesn't understand, she thought everything was going well and there were no issues.
She was obviously thinking of a different band!
I think it’s clear that the guy has no understanding of live music, of on-stage volume or of how to be part of the team that is a band.
What DOES he actually bring to the table, apart from playing the drums (the bare minimum requirement for a drummer, and far from the only skill needed to be a drummer in a well-functioning band)?!
I just can't fathom someone now wanting a monitor.
I've had singers complain to me they can't hear their voice coming out the bass bins .. which are low passed at 80Hz or so
Singers who wanted to use their expensive studio condenser mic's in a live environment .. standing in a pub 2 feet in front of a drum kit.
Insane volumes of monitoring is normally the issue, and generally the older people get the more they want. It doesn't matter how good you are at ringing out the monitors, eventually you are cutting so many frequencies you might as well just turn the thing down.
But we all start somewhere, the trick is to learn quickly and try and see the whole picture, not just your own need.
There's a great interview somewhere on the web about an irish band who supported Van Halen on tour.
On the first day they go up on stage - no monitors...nothing...
They are there wondering how they are gonna hear themselves and discover that the headliners don't use floor monitors or in-ears - they had an entire PA pointing at the stage for MONITORING purposes... as well as the PA for audience out front.
... and yes they said it was blistering loud when they used it...
Yeah that's how VH played ... with a PA onstage and Eddie insanely loud. DLR never stood a chance and blew his voice out within 5 years.
It's taking a lot of self-control to be the bigger man here and not just launch into a tirade about all the issues etc.!
(*Where did I get that phrase from? I want to say 70's/ 80's TV show Winner Takes All?)