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I did have one of the electric fly rig things a few years ago. wasn't wild on it tbh.
I have a Boss AD-8, which I really like. I had the opportunity to get a second hand AD-10 at a good price, and expected to buy it and sell the AD-8, but to my great surprise I thought the 8 also sounded better, as well as not having stuff I don't want on it (chorus!) and annoying footswitches which are set at too steep an angle on the 10, which I found slightly awkward to be certain of pressing cleanly.
"Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski
"Only two things are infinite - the universe, and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
what was horrible about it to use?
- The ability to store separate EQ settings for each channel simply did not work, or if it did I could not get it to. I corresponded with a couple of guys on the Acoustic Guitar Forum at the time (2018) and they had the same problem. This was not helped by the manual disagreeing with the BOSS instructions online. I think I took it up with Boss/Roland at the time and they parroted the manual instructions.
- People of a certain age will remember when LED digital watches first came out in the 70s, and how cool we though we were in school wearing those clunky things that you couldn't see properly in direct light.
That's what the AD10's display and menu system reminded me of, it really is dreadfully archaic, and the operating system is just awful too - awkward to use, lots of buried submenus where you have to press multiple things at the same time to access whatever. Just horrible, and inexcusable these days when even cheapo Zooms come with better designed menus and OSs.
-The tuner is rubbish
-The looper is a joke and pretty much unusable in a live setting
-Effects were (surprisingly) not great quality, the reverb was clacky and cheap, delay was limited in options
For me it seemed they had tried to cram everything, everywhere, all at once into one unit that did everything poorly, and with a operating menu/display that will have you banging your head against the nearest wall in no time.
I ended up buying separate reverb , delay and looper (just the basic BOSS RC1 was streets ahead). I later bought (nicking the idea from UK fingerstyle virtuoso Mike Dawes) a Bose T1 Tonematch as a pedal board brain/mixer/multifx, It was lovely, superb bit of kit that I'm sure many will skip over because they see it as part of the Bose PA system.
The Fly Rig Acoustic just gets the job done for my requirements, so I carry on with it. Decent enough tuner, a nice clean boost to lift the volume. The digital effects (delay, chorus, reverb) are in parallel, and I only use them subtly. The Sansamp section helps me control the amplified tone into the desk. I've never needed the notch filter in anger (touch wood). The only thing I'd say is the compressor can be a bit noisy (hissy) if you turn up the squish. I don't use it at those levels anyway, so not a problem for me.
In context, this is all with standard flat top acoustics using passive K&K Pure Mini pickups and playing solo or with another acoustic player plugged straight into the desk. I couldn't tell you how it works in an electric band context or into a backline amp.
Cheers guys!
well ok. I've also bought a yamaha AR5 as well. Major Gas leak this week!
Tuner was impossible to read standing up, the dials were a bit hard to read during a gig, and the sound matching thing was a pita .
The effects were decent and the boost was good. The tremolo was awful but tbh who uses a tremolo on an acoustic?
The main thing was the lack of tap tempo for the delay which for me made it not usable live. I should have checked that before I bought it. once you tap you never go back.
has anyone tried just chaining up a few effects and then going to DI box ie compressor, boost, delay, reverb? Does that work well?
Had thought about that actually. I've owned a stomp before and did try an acoustic through it but was farting around with acoustic IR's etc, never really liked it tbh.
But maybe less is more so just using it for a bit of EQ, tuner, compression, Delay and reverb, boost, and then into a DI box might work.
This is what I do. Currently have a small board set up for the acoustics, after a run of festival gigs and similar: baby tuner, Boss CE-5, Boss BF-2, Source Audio Collider, Boss RV-6 and then direct to desk. Thinking about swapping the BF-2 out for a distortion for the next gig, if I can find one that will work without too much howl.
Or most other bass overdrives… they usually have clean blends.
"Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski
"Only two things are infinite - the universe, and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein