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To be fair to Mr fuller, he does make great pedals.
He also has a very bad habit of making replacing the switch extremely difficult by putting resin over the solder points and using the minimum wire length, so you have no choice but to replace everything back to the PCB. Pure bad practice.
I owned four of them with a total of eight switches - three broke. I'll never own another.
"Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski
"Only two things are infinite - the universe, and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
They could tell a good wine from a bad one - but anyone can. Bad wine tastes bad! Good wine is very easy to drink, same goes for beers/lager. The amateur tasters (students) could also tell the good from the bad, and in general both panels agreed on what was good in the results.
However, they failed to correctly identify most of them and were unable to assign prices. Did it matter?
Not really. They'd still taste them, pick their favourites and drink them. Yummy. The pros were able to describe precisely why they liked it, though - rather than just saying it was delicious, they could describe properties.
I find the same is true in pedals. It's much, much more useful to ignore the price and use your ears. If your favourite happens to be expensive, then save up, but if you have a 3 grand amp, custom shop strat and you just *love* the sound of a nobels od, then it's probably better than that providence the shop assistant keeps telling you is the best.
Prime example - BBE Ben wah. Had average reviews, "good for the money" etc. Slap a new name and price tag on it, and it becomes the best wah ever. Swap out the pot if you fancy a slightly different sound, but some people preferred it stock.
A circuit is a circuit, and it's irrelevant who made it or how much it costs - all that matters is how it sounds, and if the buyer likes the way it sounds compared to others.
And yeah that's true regarding old tones, but at the same time I don't think it justifies being economical with the truth (in my opinion, anyway) when you describe what your "new" circuit actually is in its marketing material.
I'm not 100% sure, but I think so, yeah. That's a very good point- just because you can fool someone doesn't necessarily mean there's no difference either, since people are very easily fooled. That always annoys me when some troll posts clips, where it's clear that he/she is trying to fool people, and then when everyone correctly (for the troll) identifies the cheap kit as sounding best, the troll pronounces that that means that there's no difference between any kit at all.
I think they did research on this for medicine too (I think Ben Goldacre quoted it for one of his awesome Bad Science columns a while back), where they gave people either painkillers or something which would exacerbate the pain. Except they told them the opposite of what they were giving them. Needless to say, the patients thought the pain-increasing medication helped, while the genuine painkillers made it worse. ) And that's stuff which very definitely has a physiological effect (i.e. had been tested extensively double-blind before that study).
So yeah, I'd be the ffirst to agree that just because you can fool people doesn't necessarily mean there's no difference, either. It just means we're pretty easy to fool.
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FWIW @ICBM the new Bogner ones are designed to sound like a desk being over driven as I've understood it; designed with Rupert Neve.
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"Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski
"Only two things are infinite - the universe, and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
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"Buttery" (barf...!) is the last thing an overdriven desk sounds like.
It's actually quite hard to get that sort of tone through a guitar amp, to be honest - the speakers naturally limit the grating top-end, you need more of a full-range amp.
"Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski
"Only two things are infinite - the universe, and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein