Spotify playlists full of AI-generated music

ToneControl · July 24

Private eye story in latest issue:

"Jazz, lo-fi, classical, etc" (lyricless) playlists generated by Spotify contain many songs with no bio on artist, for whom all releases are from 2024.

I just had a listen to a Jazz playlist which sounds weird and has no artist links. It's torture.

I assume this is one
https://open.spotify.com/artist/7qy7x2DPclar4vNT84CitI?si=R9L58jXcSQasjMq98SkWeA

https://open.spotify.com/artist/7C9kuKEBhO8xmqAElfgwSG?si=0RMXtYYZR8augjwTkHRXzg
for this one it just says "main artist", and there is no link to click on.

I feel like I'm in that dodgy bar in Star Wars

Kittyfrisk · July 24

ToneControl said:

Private eye story in latest issue:

"Jazz, lo-fi, classical, etc" (lyricless) playlists generated by Spotify contain many songs with no bio on artist, for whom all releases are from 2024.

I just had a listen to a Jazz playlist. It's torture.

I assume this is one
https://open.spotify.com/artist/7qy7x2DPclar4vNT84CitI?si=R9L58jXcSQasjMq98SkWeA

https://open.spotify.com/artist/7C9kuKEBhO8xmqAElfgwSG?si=0RMXtYYZR8augjwTkHRXzg
for this one it just says "main artist", and there is no link to click on.

I feel like I'm in that dodgy bar in Star Wars

Just don't be Greedo...

ToneControl · July 25

someone on reddit posted this list last year
https://www.reddit.com/r/Music/comments/15wnw74/is_ai_creating_recycled_music_on_spotify_see_links/

"Megan Price" by Caden Schroeder
"Jaylah Kidd" by Jane Martin
"Chief Hound" by Joint Devil
"Coalam" by Venus
"Vortex Onyx" by Willy Commonhallow
"Mason Collins" by Clem Moore
"Arianna Reid" by Ewan Willis
"Cletites" by Theo Davidson
"Jimmy Spencer" by Lewis Anderson
"Marley Cooper" by Slow Spectator

Litterick · July 26

Are they AI, or just fake? The Danish newspaper, Dagens Nyheter, has been investigating fake artists on Spotify for some time. Many of them are the work of Johan Röhr, "a Swedish composer behind more than 650 fake artists on Spotify, who has earned more than 15 billion streams so far."

ToneControl · July 26

Litterick said:

Are they AI, or just fake? The Danish newspaper, Dagens Nyheter, has been investigating fake artists on Spotify for some time. Many of them are the work of Johan Röhr, "a Swedish composer behind more than 650 fake artists on Spotify, who has earned more than 15 billion streams so far."

I don't know really, I am just starting on looking into it

as I say, when it just says "Main artist", that seems suspicious

HAL9000 · July 26

The concern (one of many) is that if record companies can churn out AI generated music then there will no reason for them to be paying royalties to actual songwriters or performers. People already paying money to see or listen to Gorillaz, holograms of Elvis, ABBA, etc. Not sure where is heading but I suspect it won’t be good for those who want to create or perform not just music but any of the arts.

Axe_meister · July 26

It's crazy. My neighbour is a graphic artist for Clinton Cards. I showed him how quickly you can generate a Christmas card using AI with a few simple prompts, totally customised to the recipient.
He nearly fell off his chair saying it would normally take weeks from concept to approval with various re-dos in between.

Grangousier · July 26

Right, but that's something that AI doesn't do - it's completely incapable of taking direction. A friend of mine is an art director who's sort of fascinated with AI. If you ask for something you get an approximation of that thing, but you can't say "Do the same thing again, but make the rabbits bigger, and make the reds punchier", because that's fundamentally not how it works. I mean, you can say it, but you just get a completely different, and much worse, interpretation of the original prompt.

HAL9000 · July 26

On a recent BA flight I listened to the onboard music channels. Plenty of tracks had titles but no mention of the artists (the blues channel is a good example). I couldn’t find any of the tracks I’d noted for further investigation after I got back home. It never occurred to me at the time but possibly AI generated then? Or at least AI written? If so then scarily I couldn’t have told the difference.

crosstownvamp · July 26

Grangousier said:

Right, but that's something that AI doesn't do - it's completely incapable of taking direction. A friend of mine is an art director who's sort of fascinated with AI. If you ask for something you get an approximation of that thing, but you can't say "Do the same thing again, but make the rabbits bigger, and make the reds punchier", because that's fundamentally not how it works. I mean, you can say it, but you just get a completely different, and much worse, interpretation of the original prompt.

You're right , I spent half my career in graphic design and the majority of designing would be "that's good but can you try changing that bit and make it all a bit spicier" (or some other vague description).

BUT I think Midjourney which is for image making can accept revisions.

NelsonP · July 26

We are saved!

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-024-07566-y

TimmyO · 5:50AM

Grangousier said:

Right, but that's something that AI doesn't do - it's completely incapable of taking direction. A friend of mine is an art director who's sort of fascinated with AI. If you ask for something you get an approximation of that thing, but you can't say "Do the same thing again, but make the rabbits bigger, and make the reds punchier", because that's fundamentally not how it works. I mean, you can say it, but you just get a completely different, and much worse, interpretation of the original prompt.

Midjourney pretty much does that - but it's a little less plain language and a bit more knowing some numerical parameters to include from what I can see

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