Digital pedals that have gained in value / become collectible

UnclePsychosis

JezWynd said:

One series that is not getting the appreciation they deserve are the Digitech Hardwires. The fact they’re digital seems to count against them. Which is daft as they’re very well made and sound sensational. Pedal love is fickle.

-they're not (all) digital. 

At the very least the drives aren't. The fact people kept assuming they are is probably part of the reason Digitech dropped the Hardwires and moved to their current model of releasing different things as DOD and Digitech. 

ICBM

It’s also quite likely because they have a properly designed casing with a large “Boss type” switch - even though they’re are actually true bypass, people seem to want the crude flat boxes with a mechanical click switch... for reasons I just cannot fathom.

gibsongretschfan

ICBM said:

It’s also quite likely because they have a properly designed casing with a large “Boss type” switch - even though they’re are actually true bypass, people seem to want the crude flat boxes with a mechanical click switch... for reasons I just cannot fathom.

Coz it’s boootik

Slimbert

ICBM said:

It’s also quite likely because they have a properly designed casing with a large “Boss type” switch - even though they’re are actually true bypass, people seem to want the crude flat boxes with a mechanical click switch... for reasons I just cannot fathom.

I love the look of the Hardwire series...but then again, I've always liked the look of the standard Boss stomp boxes!

UnclePsychosis

The guy who runs Digitech posts on TGP and is quite open that they dropped the Hardwires just because they didn't sell.

Unfortunately for Digitech if you visit YouTube and look at the demos of the Hardwire drive pedals you see hundreds of comments from hundreds of idiots about how they'll "never buy a digital drive regardless of how good it sounds". I think digitech learned earlier than most that no amount of marketing material or factual information can stop silly "fake news"  from travelling around the internet!

With regards the switches I can only assume that people assumed they were either cheap knockoffs like Behringer pedals or that they couldn't possibly be true bypass unless they had a shitty switch like some dude in his mom's basement was using on his $800 point to point fuzz pedals. My memory is a hit hazy but weren't these pretty much released at peak "has to be hand wired, has to be true bypass, has to be boutique" nonsense time? 

TimmyO

UnclePsychosis said:

The guy who runs Digitech posts on TGP and is quite open that they dropped the Hardwires just because they didn't sell.

Unfortunately for Digitech if you visit YouTube and look at the demos of the Hardwire drive pedals you see hundreds of comments from hundreds of idiots about how they'll "never buy a digital drive regardless of how good it sounds". I think digitech learned earlier than most that no amount of marketing material or factual information can stop silly "fake news"  from travelling around the internet!

With regards the switches I can only assume that people assumed they were either cheap knockoffs like Behringer pedals or that they couldn't possibly be true bypass unless they had a shitty switch like some dude in his mom's basement was using on his $800 point to point fuzz pedals. My memory is a hit hazy but weren't these pretty much released at peak "has to be hand wired, has to be true bypass, has to be boutique" nonsense time? 

Why did people think they were digital? 

The CM-2 was/is an awesome pedal 

UnclePsychosis

TimmyO said:

UnclePsychosis said:

The guy who runs Digitech posts on TGP and is quite open that they dropped the Hardwires just because they didn't sell.

Unfortunately for Digitech if you visit YouTube and look at the demos of the Hardwire drive pedals you see hundreds of comments from hundreds of idiots about how they'll "never buy a digital drive regardless of how good it sounds". I think digitech learned earlier than most that no amount of marketing material or factual information can stop silly "fake news"  from travelling around the internet!

With regards the switches I can only assume that people assumed they were either cheap knockoffs like Behringer pedals or that they couldn't possibly be true bypass unless they had a shitty switch like some dude in his mom's basement was using on his $800 point to point fuzz pedals. My memory is a hit hazy but weren't these pretty much released at peak "has to be hand wired, has to be true bypass, has to be boutique" nonsense time? 

Why did people think they were digital? 

The CM-2 was/is an awesome pedal 

Because people made the assumption that "digi"tech meant everything was digital...

JezWynd

UnclePsychosis said:

JezWynd said:

One series that is not getting the appreciation they deserve are the Digitech Hardwires. The fact they’re digital seems to count against them. Which is daft as they’re very well made and sound sensational. Pedal love is fickle.

-they're not (all) digital. 

At the very least the drives aren't. The fact people kept assuming they are is probably part of the reason Digitech dropped the Hardwires and moved to their current model of releasing different things as DOD and Digitech. 

Interesting. I've only used the modulation sounds (Reverb, Chorus and Phase), I assumed the entire series were the same given the name - Digitech.  I wonder if there's a bias against pedals with multiple models installed, a 'jack of all trades, master of none' mentality, which is where the power of digital tech lies.

Teetonetal

UnclePsychosis said:

TimmyO said:

UnclePsychosis said:

The guy who runs Digitech posts on TGP and is quite open that they dropped the Hardwires just because they didn't sell.

Unfortunately for Digitech if you visit YouTube and look at the demos of the Hardwire drive pedals you see hundreds of comments from hundreds of idiots about how they'll "never buy a digital drive regardless of how good it sounds". I think digitech learned earlier than most that no amount of marketing material or factual information can stop silly "fake news"  from travelling around the internet!

With regards the switches I can only assume that people assumed they were either cheap knockoffs like Behringer pedals or that they couldn't possibly be true bypass unless they had a shitty switch like some dude in his mom's basement was using on his $800 point to point fuzz pedals. My memory is a hit hazy but weren't these pretty much released at peak "has to be hand wired, has to be true bypass, has to be boutique" nonsense time? 

Why did people think they were digital? 

The CM-2 was/is an awesome pedal 

Because people made the assumption that "digi"tech meant everything was digital...

Which of course as per digitechrep on TGP it now does.

Flanging_Fred

I did a search on ebay for the Hardwire reverb a couple of days ago and the only ones I saw were advertised for over a ton. Not long ago you could get them for ~£60.

To add to the list both my POG2 and Boss DD500 cost a shedload more now than when I bought mine.

Teetonetal

Flanging_Fred said:

I did a search on ebay for the Hardwire reverb a couple of days ago and the only ones I saw were advertised for over a ton. Not long ago you could get them for ~£60.

To add to the list both my POG2 and Boss DD500 cost a shedload more now than when I bought mine.

But both still in production so that's just about rising cost of production, fx rate etc

Dan_Halen

I love the Digitech Hardwire series. I've got a mini board (I have about 4 pedal boards) with just Hardwire pedals -

Tuner>CM-2>SC-2>CR-7>DL-8>Supernatural

I always felt they they are what Boss pedals should have become. Better sounding, switching, options, reliability. However, Boss have, to their credit, upped their game recently.

Flanging_Fred

Teetonetal said:

Flanging_Fred said:

I did a search on ebay for the Hardwire reverb a couple of days ago and the only ones I saw were advertised for over a ton. Not long ago you could get them for ~£60.

To add to the list both my POG2 and Boss DD500 cost a shedload more now than when I bought mine.

But both still in production so that's just about rising cost of production, fx rate etc

Oh yeah. Reading comprehension fail.... It's been a long week.

Heartfeltdawn

Yamaha UD Stomp definitely has appreciated value over the years. 

Hilarious how the Boss Fender pedals have shot up. 

Flanging_Fred

Heartfeltdawn said:

Yamaha UD Stomp definitely has appreciated value over the years. 

Hilarious how the Boss Fender pedals have shot up. 

Is there a reason those Fender/Boss pedals have gone up so much recently?

  I used to have the deluxe reverb one, which sounded ok but the design was kinda flawed.  I struggled to sell it when I got rid of it. Think I got 50 quid for it in the end in top condition.

BBBlues

Akai Deep Impact for bass. Used by chris wolstenholme and paul tuner.

JezWynd

Flanging_Fred said:

Heartfeltdawn said:

Yamaha UD Stomp definitely has appreciated value over the years. 

Hilarious how the Boss Fender pedals have shot up. 

Is there a reason those Fender/Boss pedals have gone up so much recently?

  I used to have the deluxe reverb one, which sounded ok but the design was kinda flawed.  I struggled to sell it when I got rid of it. Think I got 50 quid for it in the end in top condition.

I think in large part it's because they've been discontinued. That said, the Reverb pedal is very good, an exact copy of Princeton reverb so long as you don't crank the knobs. The bassman works in a similar fashion; sounds very good as long as you keep the controls set moderately - crank them up and the digitalness is revealed.

TimmyO

I bought a UD Stomp when they were being sold off cheaply when production ended ( @Sporky switched me on to them)

Brilliant, ingenious pedal but quite faff-tastic to set sounds up. I'm sure you could do the same things far more simply with modern digital gear. 

As for the Fender pedals, I had one on extended loan back in the day - entirely 'meh' imo - so if they are mad money now then that's, err, mad 

Lev

Can't believe the prices of the Digitech EX7, think I paid about 150 euro for mine. Now going for  250+ on ebay.

Sporky

TimmyO said:

I bought a UD Stomp when they were being sold off cheaply when production ended ( @Sporky switched me on to them)

Brilliant, ingenious pedal but quite faff-tastic to set sounds up. I'm sure you could do the same things far more simply with modern digital gear. 

I've still got mine, but no PSU to check it with.