Update — Tested! Hudson Broadcast: difference between standard and 24-volt versions

mistercharlie

I have the chance to buy a 24 volt Broadcast, the pink Peach one, with the two switches.

I already have a regular one-switch version, but I want the dual-switch model. What’s the sound difference between the 9 and the 24, in general terms? I run the regular one at 18 volts right now, so probably there isn’t much in it. 

I mostly use the pedal as an always-on make-gooderer, to add some hair, and some dirt when I hit things hard. The gain is usually at 1 o’clock, and the level at 12 o’clock, on the low-gain side. Once in a while I use the high-gain side for fuzz. 

Musicman20

I think the 24v version has a higher headroom - cleaner?

VJIves

Put it this way, if you buy it and don't want to keep it you will not struggle to move it on. I was gutted I missed the pink!

mistercharlie

VJIves said:

Put it this way, if you buy it and don't want to keep it you will not struggle to move it on. I was gutted I missed the pink!

Yeah, I’m not too worried about being able to sell one on. I arranged to pick it up this evening, so I’ll do the comparison myself, and post about it here. 

My my concern is that the 9v version can do anywhere from 9-24v with the right power supply, but the 24v is 24v-only. I guess we’ll see!

Majorscale

mistercharlie said:

VJIves said:

Put it this way, if you buy it and don't want to keep it you will not struggle to move it on. I was gutted I missed the pink!

Yeah, I’m not too worried about being able to sell one on. I arranged to pick it up this evening, so I’ll do the comparison myself, and post about it here. 

My my concern is that the 9v version can do anywhere from 9-24v with the right power supply, but the 24v is 24v-only. I guess we’ll see!

While that is true, the 24v is 24v only, it is often quite hard to power a pedal at 24v unless you have a fancy power setup so to a have a pedal that internally transforms up is not a bad thing. I would guess the difference between running your current unit at 9v vs 18v (as you do right now) will be a bigger difference than 18v vs 24v. So I’d expect 24v to have a bit more headroom, and be a bit cleaner & clearer. The two footswitch is a bonus....and it’s pink!

smudge_lad

mistercharlie said:

VJIves said:

Put it this way, if you buy it and don't want to keep it you will not struggle to move it on. I was gutted I missed the pink!

Yeah, I’m not too worried about being able to sell one on. I arranged to pick it up this evening, so I’ll do the comparison myself, and post about it here. 

My my concern is that the 9v version can do anywhere from 9-24v with the right power supply, but the 24v is 24v-only. I guess we’ll see!

Doesn't the toggle switch on the 24v change the pedal to sound a bit more like it's running at 9v?

bbill335

mistercharlie said:

VJIves said:

Put it this way, if you buy it and don't want to keep it you will not struggle to move it on. I was gutted I missed the pink!

Yeah, I’m not too worried about being able to sell one on. I arranged to pick it up this evening, so I’ll do the comparison myself, and post about it here. 

My my concern is that the 9v version can do anywhere from 9-24v with the right power supply, but the 24v is 24v-only. I guess we’ll see!

I *think* you can adjust the trimpots inside to get more clipping from the 24v version

mistercharlie

Maybe I’ll just keep both on the board...

paulnb57

Deleted content as it was bollox!

mistercharlie

Picked it up:


I wonder, how do you folks have the internal trim-pots adjusted?

NorthernStomps

Isnt the case that the 24v one converts a standard 9v supply into 24v internally? So you can have the higher headroom but with standard voltage?

I don't stock the 24v one so cant say for absolutely certain, its a Peach exclusive

paulnb57

NorthernStomps said:

Isnt the case that the 24v one converts a standard 9v supply into 24v internally? So you can have the higher headroom but with standard voltage?

I don't stock the 24v one so cant say for absolutely certain, its a Peach exclusive

That was the reply I deleted above!! (In no way suggesting your reply is bollox!!)....the latest offering from Peach has an internal transformer that ups the 9v to 24v....but the power supply must give no more that 9.6 v.......however it appears that some earlier versions were/are able to run on power supplies of different voltages from 9 to 24v......

9 to 24v
https://hudsonelectronicsuk.com/broadcast-dual-foot-switch/

Peach 9v only (internally boosted to 24v)
https://hudsonelectronicsuk.com/broadcast-pg-24v-fs/

mistercharlie

I put both in a true bypass looper to a/b them.

I started off with the regular one-switch version on 18v, and the pink Peach on 24v (as there’s no choice). I then adjusted the internal trim pots of the pink one to get the high and low gain sides to match the regular one, as close as I could anyway. 

There’s almost no difference between 18v and 24v. I had to twiddle the knobs on each to get volume levels to match up (noon on both isn’t quite identical, for instance), but you can dial in the same tone on each. There’s a bigger difference just by moving a knob a hair than there is between the two pedals. 

The difference between 9v and 24v is massive, though. 9v is grittier, and breaks up earlier. It also loses some of that fat, singing quality you get at the higher voltages. But the 9v sound is also more organic in the breakup, less like a fuzz, and more like an amp breaking up naturally.

The upshot is, now I don’t know which one to sell. While I’ve been running my original one-button at 18v the whole time, I can see the appeal of switching to the lower voltage. But I also love having the extra footswitch and knob for high-gain. 

I guess it comes down to not really digging the pink. I love pink, but I don’t like it with the blue knobs. I might swap the pink Peach one for the regular 9v 2-footswitch version, then, if anyone is interested? The one with the cool Neve knobs.  

pmg

Sell both and order the new peach one for the best of both worlds?

mistercharlie

There’s a new Peach one? It’s hard to keep up. Soon there will be more Broadcast variants than Big Muffs.