Spotify Knows You...

timmysoft

Perhaps if spotify actually paid the people who submit music to their platform rather than developing a stat tracker then i could afford a subscription to their service.

darthed1981

timmysoft said:

Perhaps if spotify actually paid the people who submit music to their platform rather than developing a stat tracker then i could afford a subscription to their service.

Spotify is essentially owned by the record labels.  They give 70% of their (substantial) revenue to said labels, their own profit margin is, well, non-existent, they lose money.

So really the blame lies with the labels for the horrible deals they get artists to sign?

Trude

I wish Spotify had a "cover band member" mode, where it would disregard the songs you have to play over and over whilst learning them. My personal listening tastes have very little crossover with the stuff I end up playing in bands!

mudslide73

Trude said:

I wish Spotify had a "cover band member" mode, where it would disregard the songs you have to play over and over whilst learning them. My personal listening tastes have very little crossover with the stuff I end up playing in bands!

My top 10 is all stuff I've been learning too. 

Grangousier

What if you start a Private Session before playing the tracks - does that help?

stevebrum

timmysoft said:

Perhaps if spotify actually paid the people who submit music to their platform rather than developing a stat tracker then i could afford a subscription to their service.

It’s £9.99 a month - I appreciate the artists get next to fuck all but that does seem to represent good value to the end user? 

Ok you don’t actually own anything - but you get access to an almost limitless library of music.

Even if you just used it as a filter it could potentially save you that a month in cds/whatever format that you bought and then found you didn’t like.

darthed1981

stevebrum said:

timmysoft said:

Perhaps if spotify actually paid the people who submit music to their platform rather than developing a stat tracker then i could afford a subscription to their service.

It’s £9.99 a month - I appreciate the artists get next to fuck all ...

It really is just the labels fucking the artists as they always have, it isn't fair to blame Spotify.

It's a big opportunity for artists the modern business as well, but you need to connect with and sell to fans.  The youtube model provides a living in music for Rabea Massad, Mary Spender and a fortune for Rob Chapman.  Band can happily get fans spending £50 on a package containing one album with a t-shirt, signed, with a mug etc.

Gigs now have far higher prices than they did a decade ago, merchandise sales at said gigs are a huge part of revenue.

The business has changed, recorded music "sales" are now a smaller chunk but there are still good livings to be made.

You see indignant artists comparing their revenue from 30k CD sales to 30k streams, but that's just..... bollocks.... when you think about it.

Trude

Grangousier said:

What if you start a Private Session before playing the tracks - does that help?

Nope - that just stops your plays from being published, but it still goes into the taste algorithms it seems 

Arktik83

OK so my daily mixes are:

1: Video game music - Lena Raine, Jessica Curry, Darren Korb.
2: Modern metal/rock - Foo Fighters, Halestorm, Trivium.
3: Female pop singers - Rita Ora, Ellie Goulding, Halsey.
4: Alternative - Youth Lagoon, Father John Misty, Blood Orange.
5: 00's metal: In flames, Lacuna Coil, Dream Theater.
6: Classic Rock: Van Halen, Scorpions, Fog Hat.

I rarely listen to albums in their entirety nowadays, I just find a song that I like and end up playing that song on a heavy rotation really and the video game music is for when I'm concentrating and need something to help me focus.  

Blueingreen

Trude said:

I wish Spotify had a "cover band member" mode, where it would disregard the songs you have to play over and over whilst learning them. My personal listening tastes have very little crossover with the stuff I end up playing in bands!

I have exactly this problem.  A friend told me he'd had a nice time listening to his "most played for 2018" list and I thought that's a good idea; but when I looked at my list it was dominated by songs I learned to play in bands.  It's not only that some of it doesn't reflect my taste, but even when it does I've usually listened to these songs too often to want to want to hear them again. for a while at least.

I suppose it's too much of a niche problem for Spotify to think about addressing though.

Trude

Blueingreen said:

Trude said:

I wish Spotify had a "cover band member" mode, where it would disregard the songs you have to play over and over whilst learning them. My personal listening tastes have very little crossover with the stuff I end up playing in bands!

I have exactly this problem.  A friend told me he'd had a nice time listening to his "most played for 2018" list and I thought that's a good idea; but when I looked at my list it was dominated by songs I learned to play in bands.  It's not only that some of it doesn't reflect my taste, but even when it does I've usually listened to these songs too often to want to want to hear them again. for a while at least.

I suppose it's too much of a niche problem for Spotify to think about addressing though.

True, but it would make perfect sense to tie it in with the "private session" feature, which seems to be all about hiding one's guilty pleasures.