Unknown Flanger/ Phaser pedal help

Liamgilmour928

Could anyone help me to identify this flanger/ phaser I have found and maybe give some information about its value? I can't find anything about it.

Liamgilmour928

https://imgur.com/a/WQMBEnL

pintspiller

Looks interesting whatever it is. How does it sound?

Octafish

Looks like a Sata-Lite Phaser Flanger to me, no need to thank me ! My guess would be it's 80s, have you opened it up, any stickers underside/inside?

lasermonkey

That's one I've never heard of! I don't suppose there's any chance of a gutshot?
:-)

Liamgilmour928

lasermonkey said:

That's one I've never heard of! I don't suppose there's any chance of a gutshot?
:-)

Not yet, I’m considering buying it off my employer but I don’t know how much to offer as I can’t find anything about it. If I do, I’ll be sure to take one 

Liamgilmour928

pintspiller said:

Looks interesting whatever it is. How does it sound?

Haven’t tried it yet, I’ll be surprised if it works 

thermionic

Doesn’t seem to be a way to switch it to phaser? Looks like standard flanger controls to me.

Liamgilmour928

thermionic said:

Doesn’t seem to be a way to switch it to phaser? Looks like standard flanger controls to me.

They’re both pretty similar anyway, I suppose the colour would probably change the number of notches/ poles which is the main difference between the two anyway

Liamgilmour928

lasermonkey said:

That's one I've never heard of! I don't suppose there's any chance of a gutshot?
:-)

I opened it up, turns out it’s a home made attempt. I won’t scar you with the shabby soldering inside 

Liamgilmour928

pintspiller said:

Looks interesting whatever it is. How does it sound?

Tried it today, sounded more like a chorus/ Slap back delay

ICBM

Liamgilmour928 said:

thermionic said:

Doesn’t seem to be a way to switch it to phaser? Looks like standard flanger controls to me.

They’re both pretty similar anyway, I suppose the colour would probably change the number of notches/ poles which is the main difference between the two anyway

They're actually not really very similar, although they can sound quite alike at low intensity settings. Phaser works by modulating phase shift (ie related to the harmonic content of the signal), flanging works by modulating delay (ie independent of the signal). As you turn the effect up - depth or especially resonance/feedback - the difference becomes more apparent.

Liamgilmour928 said:

I opened it up, turns out it’s a home made attempt. I won’t scar you with the shabby soldering inside 

Are you sure? The case looks fairly well-done for a DIY job, and the soldering inside some 70s/early-80s Japanese pedals was horrendous!

Liamgilmour928 said:

Tried it today, sounded more like a chorus/ Slap back delay

Sounds like it's probably a flanger.

Liamgilmour928

ICBM said:

Liamgilmour928 said:

thermionic said:

Doesn’t seem to be a way to switch it to phaser? Looks like standard flanger controls to me.

They’re both pretty similar anyway, I suppose the colour would probably change the number of notches/ poles which is the main difference between the two anyway

They're actually not really very similar, although they can sound quite alike at low intensity settings. Phaser works by modulating phase shift (ie related to the harmonic content of the signal), flanging works by modulating delay (ie independent of the signal). As you turn the effect up - depth or especially resonance/feedback - the difference becomes more apparent.

Liamgilmour928 said:

I opened it up, turns out it’s a home made attempt. I won’t scar you with the shabby soldering inside 

Are you sure? The case looks fairly well-done for a DIY job, and the soldering inside some 70s/early-80s Japanese pedals was horrendous!

Liamgilmour928 said:

Tried it today, sounded more like a chorus/ Slap back delay

Sounds like it's probably a flanger.

That picture does the case more justice than how it looks up close. The writing appears to be done with a brush and stencil as it’s very blobby, and could be easily made with a sheet metal bender. 

My boss seems to believe it’s a home made attempt and he was trained by the bbc a while back. Sending photos will be difficult although as there is a lot of foam/sponge material that is being kept in place by some wiring used for the mains supply.