Incoming amp goodness!

Cacofonix

And this - at 8:50+

equalsql

ACacofonix said:

And this - at 8:50+

Am I the only one who thinks that sounds shite? 

Fortheloveofguitar

equalsql;218129" said:

ACacofonix said:

And this - at 8:50+





Am I the only one who thinks that sounds shite? 

That's how mine sounds. Like ass!

ICBM

Fortheloveofguitar said:

jonnyburgo;217783" said:

May be worth changing the preamp valves to something less gainy, I've had a few blackstars and found they are much too heavy too quickly on the OD side. 

ICBM told me to do that but I never did, i think he recommended 12at7's? could be wrong though, check first.

@ICBM can you shed any light on this at all?

Any help much appreciated before I move it on.

It's not 'recommended', but seems to be safe.

Stick to just changing the one closest to the input, since that's the one which will have most effect - and is the same as the one in the pedals and the HT-5 which I have the schematic for. I don't have any info as to whether changing the other one is safe, so best don't!

Fortheloveofguitar

Thanks for all your help guys but i'm going to wash my hands of it and mover it on.

If the amp sounds that harsh out of the box then no amount of valve changing is going to smooth it out enough. Just the way they've designed it to be i guess.

Very surprised though at the ht-5 i had was very smooth and sounded lovely. This on the other hand is awful.

Thanks again everyone!

DartmoorHedgehog

That demo does sound pretty nasty.  My HT20 was never what I would describe as "harsh", but I never use much gain and had a 12AY7 in the drive channel preamp (there is only one preamp valve per channel in the HTs, apart from the HT-100 which I believe has a phase inverter valve as well).  It's a really dark sounding amp in my experience, not harsh or fizzy when playing lower gain.  The HT-5 is quite different sounding to the bigger HT amps.

If you don't like it you don't like it though!  Sounds like you got it cheap enough not to lose anything by passing it on

Fortheloveofguitar

DartmoorHedgehog said:

That demo does sound pretty nasty.  My HT20 was never what I would describe as "harsh", but I never use much gain and had a 12AY7 in the drive channel preamp (there is only one preamp valve per channel in the HTs, apart from the HT-100 which I believe has a phase inverter valve as well).  It's a really dark sounding amp in my experience, not harsh or fizzy when playing lower gain.  The HT-5 is quite different sounding to the bigger HT amps.

If you don't like it you don't like it though!  Sounds like you got it cheap enough not to lose anything by passing it on

Yes its in showroom condition so i will make my money back easily. Already have interest so all good.

I would have been annoyed had i paid big bucks for it!

Fortheloveofguitar

And sold!

Local fella came round and loved the tone and bit me hand off for it.

Funny how we all perceive tone in different ways.

ICBM

Too late now, but out of curiosity which speaker did it have? I forgot to ask earlier.

I can't listen to the demo just now, but if it was the Neodymium one it wouldn't surprise me if it sounded bad. I don't like them at all.

Fortheloveofguitar

Was a seventy 80. I ran it through my closed back 2x12 with v30 and still sounded horrible.

Did soften a little when cranked but way to harsh for me. Back to the drawing board.

timmysoft

I find the BS sound very harsh and sterile, it's a bit like being hit by a blunt copper knife. I even found that with the series ones, for the asking price there's plenty of amps you can have that give you more character and impact less on your guitars core tone.

ThePrettyDamned

I quite like the sound, it's nice for heavy rock and metal. You can get some quite brutal tones boosting it with a tubescreamer, and an eq pedal in the loop is supposed to help a lot. I didn't need one, I quite liked the dark voicing.

Just not as aggressive as a 6505, but I've not tried the ht metal yet, which could be more 'me'.

ThePrettyDamned

Anyway, good luck tone hunting mate!

Fortheloveofguitar

ThePrettyDamned;219783" said:

Anyway, good luck tone hunting mate!

Cheers mate. Could be looking at a H&K statesman next. Hoping the Od is a bit smoother.