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HarrySevenHarrySeven Frets: 3839
edited January 12 in Guitar


A few days ago, I dug out the carcass of an old Godwin organ guitar. At some point in the dim and distant past, a previous owner stripped out all of the (presumably faulty) organ innards and configured it as a standard guitar.

As you can see from the pics, they fortuitously left the fingerboard loom in place. Each fret (like the SynthAxe) is actually a composite of six separate sections, each effectively functioning as an individual switch.

I’ve been meaning to do something with this for ages and I think now is the time...

The first step will be to remove the neck and loom in order to assess the state of the wiring and get to grips with working out/documenting the fret matrix.
Unfortunately, some of the (remaining) wiring looks to have been hacked and access isn't great through the rear panel. Luckily, the neck is bolt-on, so it's very easy to remove.

Wiring diagrams/colour coding charts aren't easy to come by, so I figured having the neck/loom on the bench is the easiest option.


Precisely what I’ll end up shoehorning into the body synth-wise isn’t clear yet, so any suggestions will be gratefully received. I’m also liking the idea of some kind of onboard multi-effects.



To start the ball rolling - and thanks to the exceptional generosity of @thecolourbox, I now have a MicroKORG XL to add to the mix.




I've no idea how/where this is going to end up, but I think there's huge scope for being inventive with the fret matrix and (repurposing) the original controls. I'm also interested in the possibilities of SoftPot membrane potentiometers...





So...all thoughts, (hopefully polite/helpful) suggestions or whatever gratefully appreciated!

Oh, and if anyone knows anything re. the location of an alive/dead complete/incomplete Godwin/Sisme, Vox, etc Guitar Organ, I'm all ears...




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  • thecolourboxthecolourbox Frets: 3586
    You're very welcome H7, glad to free up the Spare Oom real estate to be honest and it sounds like an interesting project 
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  • Philly_QPhilly_Q Frets: 5157
    I haven't got the slightest idea how you should reconfigure it, I don't understand it at all. 

    But it's an amazing looking thing - inside and out - and I'd love to know what it sounded like and what all those switches actually did when they were working!
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  • Wow! That looks complicated but it’s a cool looking guitar, if all else fails it would make an interesting looking conventional passive pickup guitar.
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  • Simon_MSimon_M Frets: 154
    I had a MicroKorg synth and vocoder years ago. It was a truly brilliant machine. I wish I still had it.

    Good luck with the project!
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  • MoominpapaMoominpapa Frets: 613
    Q would be proud of you.
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  • DiscoStuDiscoStu Frets: 2923
    Great project! I wouldn't know where to start on something like this.
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  • thermionicthermionic Frets: 5169
    Amazing. Looks like they fret the neck normally, saw along the length of the entire neck, and fill the gaps with plastic strips. My mind boggles at the wiring involved for what is basically a 126 pole switch!
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  • jdgmjdgm Frets: 229
    Were you not interested in the Bond Electraglide which recently came up for sale in the classifieds?

    No doubt you already have at least one!! ;)
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  • WonkyWonky Frets: 8
    I've never seen one of those, ever.  Looks like an amazing thing.  Wouldn't know where to start.
    Many years ago a sold my first car to buy a Korg Z3 guitar synth.  It was great, even used it live for a good while before the hexa pickup started playing up (not really up to gigging despite careful handling where possible.
    Only last week I realised there was a modern hexa pickup with a bluetooth connection that could be used to play plug in synths and the like available for about £350!!!! Might pick one up just for a laugh and old times sake.
    I can't wait to see what you do with your organ guitar though.  Fascinating stuff.
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  • HarrySevenHarrySeven Frets: 3839
    jdgm said:
    Were you not interested in the Bond Electraglide which recently came up for sale in the classifieds?

    No doubt you already have at least one!! ;)
    2 actually! ;)

    Plus, most of the ones I’ve come across have only been a fraction of that asking price...


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  • RockerRocker Frets: 2870
    @HarrySeven, a few months ago I saw one of those, or very similar, in the window of SomeNeckGuitars in Dublin. No idea if they still have it but a phone call or an email might bring results. BTW it looks frighteningly complex internally and externally but good luck with the project, I am looking forward to seeing what emerges at the end....
    Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. [Albert Einstein]

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  • guitars4youguitars4you Frets: 4867
    sorry I can't help H7 but it does look cool - almost a labour of love job, or find out as you go along
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  • HarrySevenHarrySeven Frets: 3839
    sorry I can't help H7 but it does look cool - almost a labour of love job, or find out as you go along
    Bit of both! ;)


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  • HarrySevenHarrySeven Frets: 3839

    Rocker said:
    @HarrySeven, a few months ago I saw one of those, or very similar, in the window of SomeNeckGuitars in Dublin. No idea if they still have it but a phone call or an email might bring results. BTW it looks frighteningly complex internally and externally but good luck with the project, I am looking forward to seeing what emerges at the end....
    Oooooo! Cheers for the lead... :)


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  • FunkfingersFunkfingers Frets: 3586
    HarrySeven said:
    Precisely what I’ll end up shoehorning into the body synth-wise isn’t clear yet, so any suggestions will be gratefully received. I’m also liking the idea of some kind of onboard multi-effects. 
    https://shop.littlebits.com/products/littlebits-electronic-music-inventor-kit

    Philly_Q said:
    I'd love to know what it sounded like and what all those switches actually did when they were working!
    Joseph Pugol (Le Pètomane)


    "It's no wonder the Pacific Ocean is blue."
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  • GassageGassage Frets: 21318
    Mods-

    Purleese- we don't need yet another bloody Godwin Guitar Organ build thread.....

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  • HarrySevenHarrySeven Frets: 3839
    edited January 12
    Philly_Q said:
    I'd love to know what it sounded like and what all those switches actually did when they were working!
    Joseph Pugol (Le Pètomane)

    Oh ye of little faith! grin 


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  • FunkfingersFunkfingers Frets: 3586
    Gassage said:
    we don't need yet another bloody Godwin Guitar Organ build thread.
    Don't worry. It's not going to happen. Not least because, if the electronical gubbins were ever fully reinstated, it would take two steroid-enhanced roadies to lift the thing. :-p
    "It's no wonder the Pacific Ocean is blue."
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  • DiscoStuDiscoStu Frets: 2923
    @HarrySeven if you can shoehorn a MicroKorg in to a guitar and make it properly playable, then put me top of the buyers list.
    Or just make me another one cos it's always easier second time around!
    Cheers.
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  • GassageGassage Frets: 21318
    I'm off tyh
    Gassage said:
    we don't need yet another bloody Godwin Guitar Organ build thread.
    Don't worry. It's not going to happen. Not least because, if the electronical gubbins were ever fully reinstated, it would take two steroid-enhanced roadies to lift the thing. :-p
    H should have his own version of Wheeler Dealers

    Winger Stringers.

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  • Jimbro66Jimbro66 Frets: 1019
    This similar Godwin organ guitar on You Tube gives an idea as to how Harry’s might have sounded back in the seventies. I found the sound (and playing) tiresome after a short while so anything Harry can do with synth electronics would probably be quite an improvement.

    https://youtu.be/zZ6Djp-IHlw
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  • blobbblobb Frets: 975
    @HarrySeven just saw this.  How's your Italian?

    "very rare example, like new complete of hard case and accessories, all original. perfect. I evaluate offers only proportionate to the uniqueness of the instrument. No time wasters"
    Feelin' Reelin' & Squeelin'
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  • HarrySevenHarrySeven Frets: 3839
    blobb said:
    @HarrySeven just saw this.  How's your Italian?

    "very rare example, like new complete of hard case and accessories, all original. perfect. I evaluate offers only proportionate to the uniqueness of the instrument. No time wasters"
    My Italian is very poor...damn!


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  • King85King85 Frets: 118
    That's a lot of switches and wires. Good luck!
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  • ESBlondeESBlonde Frets: 2533
    You should ask Emp_Fab for some tips on getting down to this epic task. I applaud the resurection of an instrument which clearly has no financial incentive, what a wonderful thing to do.
    My suggestion for a weird modification. Put in a DMX controller so that the player defines the on stage light show in real time.
    Thats all I 've got.
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  • blobbblobb Frets: 975
    blobb said:
    @HarrySeven just saw this.  How's your Italian?

    "very rare example, like new complete of hard case and accessories, all original. perfect. I evaluate offers only proportionate to the uniqueness of the instrument. No time wasters"
    My Italian is very poor...damn!
    He posted it on this fb page if you no speako dego.
    Feelin' Reelin' & Squeelin'
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  • HarrySevenHarrySeven Frets: 3839
    blobb said:
    blobb said:
    @HarrySeven just saw this.  How's your Italian?

    "very rare example, like new complete of hard case and accessories, all original. perfect. I evaluate offers only proportionate to the uniqueness of the instrument. No time wasters"
    My Italian is very poor...damn!
    He posted it on this fb page if you no speako dego.


    I’ve messaged the guy on both sites (thanks Google Translate!), but no response yet...


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  • Emp_FabEmp_Fab Frets: 14080
    ESBlonde said:
    You should ask Emp_Fab for some tips on getting down to this epic task.
    Why ? What do you think I can bring to the table here ?!!
    Lack of planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on mine.
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  • ESBlondeESBlonde Frets: 2533
    Emp_Fab said:
    ESBlonde said:
    You should ask Emp_Fab for some tips on getting down to this epic task.
    Why ? What do you think I can bring to the table here ?!!
    I'll tell you later, stay tuned. ;-)
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  • HarrySevenHarrySeven Frets: 3839
    ESBlonde said:
    Emp_Fab said:
    ESBlonde said:
    You should ask Emp_Fab for some tips on getting down to this epic task.
    Why ? What do you think I can bring to the table here ?!!
    I'll tell you later, stay tuned. ;-)
    I’m all ears...


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