Fender Rumble Amps - user/owner comments please

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KebabkidKebabkid Frets: 1579
edited February 14 in Bass
Whilst in Andertons yesterday, trying and buying another Sire bass, I was plugged into a 25W Fender Rumble bass amp and I was really impressed. Big, real and lovely sound that suited both active and passive sounds and a nice bell like tone, which I like. I tend to need a compressor to get that sound but it was there in this small bundle, especially when I activated the Contour switch

I've plugged into one of the bigger, earlier version combo models a few years ago and remember being impressed on that occasion as well.

I'd be interested to hear what people think and if a 200W does the job for pub gigs? I know it's recommended that you have a high wattage amp for bass and head room etc but I've been using a Roland Bass Cube 120 watter for the last few years and it's been fine.

Thanks
 www.cairoeast.co.uk - Madness Tribute band (Bass Player) and guitarist elsewhere
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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 17552
    The Rumble amps are exceptionally good. 

    I’ve played quite a few gigs where the house amp has been a rumble 500 and it’s done a cracking job.

    In my opinion, the price difference - and most importantly the size and weight difference - makes the 500 a no brainer over the 200. 

    The 500 is a classic and has a huge following - there’s an extension can available if you need any more heft later on. 

    Well worth every penny. The 500’s come up for sale secondhand on Basschat every now and again and get snapped up pretty quick. 
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  • BenSirAmosBenSirAmos Frets: 261
    I've bought a Rumble 100 for guitar and I think it is fantastic. I've not really put it through its paces as a bass amp.

    BUT note that the 200 is only 140w with the internal speaker - it is 200w with an extension cab. I'm not sure that the extra money for another 40 watts is worth it. Maybe the 500 would be better (350 watts with just the internal speaker)

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  • I always forget which one my son has,I think it’s the 40. It was used in The 2Tone Automatics when the bassist’s own amp blew up and managed a gig with no sweat. A small 1x10 combo obviously didn’t offer huge depth of sound but it was loud enough. So I’d imagine the 200w would be fine for Cairo East. 
    The built in overdrive is surprisingly versatile should you need to throw a Motörhead cover into the set. 
    Assholes are like opinions - mine’s on the internet. 
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  • KebabkidKebabkid Frets: 1579
    Thanks chaps.

    Surprisingly, there's not a lot of difference in weight between the 200 and the 500 and about £100 difference in price for new.
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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 17552
    Kebabkid said:
    Thanks chaps.

    Surprisingly, there's not a lot of difference in weight between the 200 and the 500 and about £100 difference in price for new.
    Exactly - which is why the 500 is a much better option!
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  • FunkfingersFunkfingers Frets: 4208
    edited February 10
    Fender's wattage ratings are misleading. Rumble 200 and 500 models only achieve that sort of power when driving their internal loudspeaker plus a suitable external cabinet. 

    Thus, by itself, the Rumble 200 will be no more powerful than the Roland Bass Cube.
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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 17552
    Fender's wattage ratings are misleading. Rumble 200 and 500 models only achieve that sort of power when driving their internal loudspeaker plus a suitable external cabinet. 

    Thus, by itself, the Rumble 200 will be no more powerful than the Roland Bass Cube.
    Interestingly, there’s a 500 plus extension cab on one of the Facebook bass classifieds groups right now for 600 notes. 

    That’s 500w and 4x10 of fender goodness for the price of a reasonable class D 500w head... 
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  • I’ve had my 500 rumble 2x10 for about a year now. I picked up the 1x15 extension cab shortly after buying the amp but to be honest it’s a bit overkill for pub gigs so have never used it at a gig. The combo runs at 350 watts by itself and 500 with the cab. I play either a p bass or a stingray through mine (usually the P) and it covers plenty of ground for the varied stuff we play. I was debating between the rumble and a mark bass but the equivalent wattage mark bass combo was around 350 notes more than the fender, too spendy for me!
    well chuffed with mine and would definitely recommend the 500 over the 200. It’s still a tidy package.
    The Swamp City Shakers
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  • KebabkidKebabkid Frets: 1579
    edited February 10
    Cheers @bandmaster188 and the 500 sounds like it's the one and has plenty enough for me and I wouldn't need an extension cab.

    With my Roland Bass Cube, the one big gig we did (an outdoor festival), it didn't matter about the volume as I took a DI out from the amp. However, as pleasing as that amp is, from what I've heard so far, the Rumble sounds better and I preferred it.
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  • They do sound great with the extension cab though, a lot heftier! But my cab  gets used more as a spare chair in the music room than it does for gigging.
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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 17552
    edited February 10
    They do sound great with the extension cab though, a lot heftier! But my cab  gets used more as a spare chair in the music room than it does for gigging.
    I’ve got a Trace Elliot that’s been nicknamed “The Chair” in our house
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  • I gig with a 500 and it does a great job filling out the low end. At first, I thought it sounded woolly with not much definition so I did a Google and read about having the gain too high (I used to set it at 12.00-1.00). The next gig I set the gain at 9.00 and it was much better.

    I also have a 40 in my den for practicing, they’re great amps IMHO.
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  • KebabkidKebabkid Frets: 1579
    edited February 14
    Does anyone DI these? If so, what's the sound like and some reviewer on YT mentioned a down point was that it was linked or controlled by the Master - don't get that??
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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 17552
    Kebabkid said:
    Does anyone DI these? If so, what's the sound like and some reviewer on YT mentioned a down point was that it was linked or controlled by the Master - don't get that??
    Yes the master volume does control the DI out which means you can’t have separate levels for the internal speaker and the level output through DI
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    edited February 14
    Kebabkid said:
    Does anyone DI these? If so, what's the sound like and some reviewer on YT mentioned a down point was that it was linked or controlled by the Master - don't get that??
    Yes the master volume does control the DI out which means you can’t have separate levels for the internal speaker and the level output through DI
    Ah, I see. That is a pain and restrictive I thought I could get a smaller one for home that I could DI for gigs (as spare)
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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 17552
    Kebabkid said:
    Kebabkid said:
    Does anyone DI these? If so, what's the sound like and some reviewer on YT mentioned a down point was that it was linked or controlled by the Master - don't get that??
    Yes the master volume does control the DI out which means you can’t have separate levels for the internal speaker and the level output through DI
    Ah, I see. That is a pain and restrictive I thought I could get a smaller one for home that I could DI for gigs (as spare)
    If you def. want both a combo and DI then there are better (but more expensive choices).

    I don’t bother with the combo bit - I DI from a pedal and have a PA wedge for monitor. 
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  • BenSirAmosBenSirAmos Frets: 261
    While the preamp controls including gain affect the balanced line out, you can use the effects send instead

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  • MrBumpMrBump Frets: 634
    +1 for the 500.  I have one, albeit only for home use, and it's wonderful.
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  • FunkfingersFunkfingers Frets: 4208
    I’ve got a Trace Elliot that’s been nicknamed “The Chair” in our house
    What nickname has been bestowed on your Marshall DBS rig?
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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 36902
    Kebabkid said:
    Kebabkid said:
    Does anyone DI these? If so, what's the sound like and some reviewer on YT mentioned a down point was that it was linked or controlled by the Master - don't get that??
    Yes the master volume does control the DI out which means you can’t have separate levels for the internal speaker and the level output through DI
    Ah, I see. That is a pain and restrictive
    That is pure bad design, and unfortunately reinforces the reason many soundmen won't DI the amp - they prefer to DI the bass, leaving the amp as a glorified monitor - in case you mess about with the level after they've set it in the FOH mix.

    The DI output should always be pre-MV, so the two things are independent. Ideally it should be selectable for pre/post EQ as well, but if it's fixed then post is better.
    "Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski

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  • KebabkidKebabkid Frets: 1579
    ICBM said:
    Kebabkid said:
    Kebabkid said:
    Does anyone DI these? If so, what's the sound like and some reviewer on YT mentioned a down point was that it was linked or controlled by the Master - don't get that??
    Yes the master volume does control the DI out which means you can’t have separate levels for the internal speaker and the level output through DI
    Ah, I see. That is a pain and restrictive
    That is pure bad design, and unfortunately reinforces the reason many soundmen won't DI the amp - they prefer to DI the bass, leaving the amp as a glorified monitor - in case you mess about with the level after they've set it in the FOH mix.

    The DI output should always be pre-MV, so the two things are independent. Ideally it should be selectable for pre/post EQ as well, but if it's fixed then post is better.
    Thanks ICBM - is there a pedal/special type of DI you could put between the amp and desk to get past this issue?
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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 17552
    I’ve got a Trace Elliot that’s been nicknamed “The Chair” in our house
    What nickname has been bestowed on your Marshall DBS rig?
    "Get that f**king big thing out the way"
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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 36902
    Kebabkid said:

    Thanks ICBM - is there a pedal/special type of DI you could put between the amp and desk to get past this issue?
    No, because adjusting the MV on the amp will still alter the signal level to the desk.

    The only way you can fix it is to either go from the FX send to a DI box - which may be post-EQ, I don't know - or DI the bass and just use the amp as a monitor, which means you have no control over the tone going to the desk. (Unless you use an EQ pedal as well.)
    "Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone." - Walt Kowalski

    "Just because I don't care, doesn't mean I don't understand." - Homer Simpson
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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 17552
    ICBM said:
    Kebabkid said:

    Thanks ICBM - is there a pedal/special type of DI you could put between the amp and desk to get past this issue?
    No, because adjusting the MV on the amp will still alter the signal level to the desk.

    The only way you can fix it is to either go from the FX send to a DI box - which may be post-EQ, I don't know - or DI the bass and just use the amp as a monitor, which means you have no control over the tone going to the desk. (Unless you use an EQ pedal as well.)
    IIRC you can set the FX loop to pre or post
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  • BenSirAmosBenSirAmos Frets: 261
    ICBM said:
    Kebabkid said:

    Thanks ICBM - is there a pedal/special type of DI you could put between the amp and desk to get past this issue?
    No, because adjusting the MV on the amp will still alter the signal level to the desk.

    The only way you can fix it is to either go from the FX send to a DI box - which may be post-EQ, I don't know - or DI the bass and just use the amp as a monitor, which means you have no control over the tone going to the desk. (Unless you use an EQ pedal as well.)
    IIRC you can set the FX loop to pre or post
    That's what I thought - but I can't find how you do that on a 100

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  • BridgehouseBridgehouse Frets: 17552
    ICBM said:
    Kebabkid said:

    Thanks ICBM - is there a pedal/special type of DI you could put between the amp and desk to get past this issue?
    No, because adjusting the MV on the amp will still alter the signal level to the desk.

    The only way you can fix it is to either go from the FX send to a DI box - which may be post-EQ, I don't know - or DI the bass and just use the amp as a monitor, which means you have no control over the tone going to the desk. (Unless you use an EQ pedal as well.)
    IIRC you can set the FX loop to pre or post
    That's what I thought - but I can't find how you do that on a 100
    Might only be on the 500 as it’s the same amp as the head only version
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  • Th bass player in our band uses a Rumble 100 and it”s totally fine for the pub gigs that we do and never seems to struggle, even with a Digitech Bass Synth wah going through it.
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  • Mark1960Mark1960 Frets: 149
    The prevoius Bass player in our band used the 500 with extension speaker. Plenty of volume, but the tone was very poor IMHO, very muddy, and back of the box, but that could be because of the way he had it set up or the guitar he was using. When he D/I through a PA at larger gigs it cleaned up a lot better.
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  • JalapenoJalapeno Frets: 3662
    Pianist in my Jazz band uses a Rumble combo - insanely loud and incredibly light
    Imagine something sharp and witty here ......

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