Bill is selling the Klon Centaur again and not the KTR

stonevibe

Via Ebay

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Klon-Centaur-S-3888-new-unit-with-full-warranty-for-sale-by-Klon-LLC-/382677497038?_trksid=p2047675.m43663.l10137&nordt=true&rt=nc&orig_cvip=true

timhulio

Is the goop really necessary at this point?

RaymondLin

If he can sell the same thing in a different box at 5x the profit.....I would!

Musicman20

RaymondLin said:

If he can sell the same thing in a different box at 5x the profit.....I would!

I agree. 

But it is NUTS! You can buy a EHX Soul Food and get 95% there for like £70.

thecolourbox

Musicman20 said:

RaymondLin said:

If he can sell the same thing in a different box at 5x the profit.....I would!

I agree. 

But it is NUTS! You can buy a EHX Soul Food and get 95% there for like £70.

You could buy a Ford Mondeo and do 70mph on a motorway alongside a Bentley

Sassafras

Is spending over $2000 on one really necessary at this point?
I bet RYRA and EHX are worried about this. They might have to reduce their prices to compete.

Teetonetal

Already gone

dindude

Bill is an enigma to me, along with Paul of Tim/Timmy fame.

Design a pedal that is popular and moves things on a bit - but never move on yourself - why not make a whole series out of it, keep production in line with demand, design some new stuff. 

These boys must be scraping a living - just feels like unfulfilled potential.

RaymondLin

dindude said:

Bill is an enigma to me, along with Paul of Tim/Timmy fame.

Design a pedal that is popular and moves things on a bit - but never move on yourself - why not make a whole series out of it, keep production in line with demand, design some new stuff. 

These boys must be scraping a living - just feels like unfulfilled potential.

They are not businessmen.  They are like a hobbyist who stumbled on a design that went much bigger than they ever envisaged but there was never a plan to make it long term.  They are not Thorpy or Joel Korte where they hire people or collaborate to make other kinds of pedals.

octatonic

dindude said:

Bill is an enigma to me, along with Paul of Tim/Timmy fame.

Design a pedal that is popular and moves things on a bit - but never move on yourself - why not make a whole series out of it, keep production in line with demand, design some new stuff. 

These boys must be scraping a living - just feels like unfulfilled potential.

It seems to either go one of two ways, this way, or get bought out by a larger company and the design gets watered down and made cheaper.
I'm pleased he is still working this way, but I don't necessarily need to have to spend $2k on a pedal I bought for $400 10 years ago (and balked at it then).

57Deluxe

But - I'd still be playing the same guitar through it into the same amps with the same riffs...

octatonic

57Deluxe said:

But - I'd still be playing the same guitar through it into the same amps with the same riffs...

A good pedal can inspire new ideas- that is kinda the point of them for me.
Otherwise why buy it?

stonevibe

octatonic said:

57Deluxe said:

But - I'd still be playing the same guitar through it into the same amps with the same riffs...

A good pedal can inspire new ideas- that is kinda the point of them for me.
Otherwise why buy it?

Bragging rights on guitar forums?

soma1975

RaymondLin said:

dindude said:

Bill is an enigma to me, along with Paul of Tim/Timmy fame.

Design a pedal that is popular and moves things on a bit - but never move on yourself - why not make a whole series out of it, keep production in line with demand, design some new stuff. 

These boys must be scraping a living - just feels like unfulfilled potential.

They are not businessmen.  They are like a hobbyist who stumbled on a design that went much bigger than they ever envisaged but there was never a plan to make it long term.  They are not Thorpy or Joel Korte where they hire people or collaborate to make other kinds of pedals.

Paul C seems a great dude. has enough work to keep him going and doesn't have high overheads and has no dreams of world supremacy. He is backlogged with orders and he can probably make like 5+ pedals a day  just himself and probably does over $100 profit on each one.  

FastEddie

How on earth does it take him so long to build each unit? He's made them all so must have a good idea of what he's doing.
Seems a real eccentric. Love that part.

fretmeister

FastEddie said:

How on earth does it take him so long to build each unit? He's made them all so must have a good idea of what he's doing.
Seems a real eccentric. Love that part.

He could churn them out and lower the values.

Why not make 1 per week, or even 1 per 2 weeks and earn $2000 a pop for 3 hours work.
Sounds like a plan to me.

stonevibe

Analogman KOT anyone? Worth about £80-100, but due to 'waiting list' sells for more than double that and some. 

Johnnyseven

timhulio said:

Is the goop really necessary at this point?

The tone isn't the same without the goop.

Cols

fretmeister said:

FastEddie said:

How on earth does it take him so long to build each unit? He's made them all so must have a good idea of what he's doing.
Seems a real eccentric. Love that part.

He could churn them out and lower the values.

Why not make 1 per week, or even 1 per 2 weeks and earn $2000 a pop for 3 hours work.
Sounds like a plan to me.

As I understand, he has a close friend who’s a single mother and doesn’t make a lot of money from her job.  Every once in a while, he makes some Centaurs and sells them to help her out with bills.  He doesn’t make any money from it himself.

Wazmeister

Good luck to him... classic design that made lots of money for others too

Sassafras

If I had to spend 2k on a pedal, I'd rather that money went to the guy who designed and built it than someone who paid £300 and then flipped it for 2 grand. Seems far more deserving in my eyes.
It's still a mysteriously ludicrous price, though.