Jeremy Kyle Show cancelled (forever)

MLten80

good, its painful to watch & the guy is a tool (Jeremy not dead bloke)

 what's with his face? in almost every picture of him it looks like hes got a fart stuck

WiresDreamDisasters

In all seriousness:

For screening purposes, though, the NAS found polygraph tests had too high a margin of error to be genuinely informative. If you made your criteria loose enough to catch most of the bad guys, you were overwhelmed with false positives; if you raised the bar enough to thin out the false positives, you missed too many bad guys.

https://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2935/how-accurate-are-lie-detector-tests/

The guy who killed himself after failing the lie detector test... I think it's possible that he's been incredibly wronged here.

Barnezy

WiresDreamDisasters said:v

I will miss it. 

I just dont know what I'm going to show my kids now to convince them to do well at school and stay away from drugs! My have to resort to pointing at and shaming homeless people.... so much more effort than just doing it from the sofa. 

digitalscream

It's a total knee-jerk overreaction, but the cancellation is a good result even if the logic's sketchy.

Now if we can get all the other benefit-porn shows off the air, we might have a shot at fixing the swamp that is contemporary British culture.

WiresDreamDisasters

digitalscream said:

It's a total knee-jerk overreaction, but the cancellation is a good result even if the logic's sketchy.

Now if we can get all the other benefit-porn shows off the air, we might have a shot at fixing the swamp that is contemporary British culture.

DRAIN THE SWAMP!

Kilgore

Some of the "guests" treated it like a city break, a night in a Manchester hotel, all you can eat at Nando's and you get to be on the telly.

What's not to like?

Funkfingers

Kilgore said:

you get to be on the telly.

Lee Harvey Oswald ... come on down!

ICBM

DrCornelius said:

Wouldn't it be great if this is the start of the 'entertainment' industry holding up a mirror to itself.  Its mental health awareness week, TV stations are falling over each other to run stories showing how much they care about MH yet programs like this sh1t have been allowed to exploit vulnerable people for years. 

A nice thought, but it will be lip service at best I suspect, even if it happens at all. You only have to see the overwhelming popularity of "reality" TV to know that it's what a lot of people seem to want, and thus is where TV companies chasing ratings will invest and advertisers will spend their money.

George Orwell would not have been surprised.

WiresDreamDisasters said:

In all seriousness:

For screening purposes, though, the NAS found polygraph tests had too high a margin of error to be genuinely informative. If you made your criteria loose enough to catch most of the bad guys, you were overwhelmed with false positives; if you raised the bar enough to thin out the false positives, you missed too many bad guys.

https://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2935/how-accurate-are-lie-detector-tests/

The guy who killed himself after failing the lie detector test... I think it's possible that he's been incredibly wronged here.

Very true.

CHRISB50

Am I the only one who thinks a crossover show between Jeremy Kyle and Naked Attraction is a missed opportunity?

Alas it will never happen now.

Wolfetone

axisus said:

I think that it's a show that largely preys on vulnerable people idiots, it's about time we said no to that sort of thing. 

There, that's more like it....

proggy

Fuck! Bang goes my chance of 15 minutes of fame.

underdog

munckee said:

I believe they did employ pre care checks to make sure people were up to it but nothings perfect.  How so many people went on the show confident they would bluff their way through a lie detector is astounding.

I don't think I'm a snob but I found it really sobering to see how different life is for some people.  The chap who committed suicide lived a few miles from me.

A journalist run a story on her day at the show and speaking with relatives of one of the people on stage. Very interesting, apparently they ignored the fact the man in question had mental health issues and pressed on with the show.

There was another story about how one woman was on a "your drinking is out of control" episode and the hotel room provided came with a case of beer and a bottle of vodka as welcome gift.

Also lie detectors they're something like 60% accurate, yet the show claims they are infallible, so no doubt people had their lives ruined even though they told the truth.

LuttiS

Was reading an article this morning, apparently there is quite a lot of before & after care, but during they are taken advantage of..

Sometimes clothes are provided depending on what the producers want to convey - jeans & t-shirt or stereotypical tracksuit (must be returned afterwards).

The producers/researchers will also rile up the contestants before/during the show. begins with he said/she said to them, if the contestant leaves the stage the producers will scream at them telling them to get back on "are you going to let them say that!? Get back out there and give them a piece of your mind" etc



All seems a bit sick to me. What gets me is that people want to go on the show? 

ToneControl

I can't believe the show was allowed to run for more than 3 months
Horrible and demeaning

richardhomer

LuttiS said:

All seems a bit sick to me. What gets me is that people want to go on the show? 

Don’t they get paid £250? People who are genuinely poor will often do very demeaning things to get some money. 

p90fool

The first time I ever saw it was ten years ago when I'd dropped round to someone's flat to give a lift to the cleaner who worked for my bike shop.

She was a skinny girl with a scraped back ponytail, and was sat on the sofa with some seedy looking bloke in his forties, a pregnant teenager and a spotty lad this his hat on backwards who was rolling a spliff.

They were oblivious to my presence, because JK was on. 

When we got to work I asked her why they simply didn't get rid of the TV and put a mirror there instead - I got a very short answer...

Philly_Q

There's quite a lot of hypocrisy and holier-than-thou-ness (if that's a thing) about this.

Of course the programme is rubbish, but the people who appear (I've heard them referred to as "contestants" this week, bizarrely) are there of their own free will.  Nobody forces them to take those lie detector tests or DNA tests.  Many of them appear multiple times.  Many of them say how much they love "Jezza" and his show.  Few - if any - are genuinely upset by the test results, they just get angry and say the results must be wrong.

The former guests and audience members who've appeared the last couple of days saying how distressing and awful it was... why were they there?  As dispassionate scientific observers?  Or were they laughing and shouting like everyone else?

There's also something very patronising about all the outraged reaction, much of it from people who've never watched the programme, saying how it exploits the poor, vulnerable and disadvantaged.  Would they be so concerned if it was hosted by Germaine Greer, with a panel of Guardian readers discussing their relationship traumas?

I don't really care that they've axed the Jeremy Kyle Show.  The world won't be a worse place without it.  I just think it's pathetic the way all the media vultures and hyenas have gathered round, acting like they're all upholders of the highest moral and ethical standards.

PhilW1

Its the worst kind of exploitative TV.
I'll never understand who gave the go ahead for a shouty little self-righteous bully boy,( who always has his bodyguards/bouncers to protect him), to berate  the vulnerable, not as educated/privileged as himself on TV.
There are so many things wrong with this show I can't believe it wasn't pulled years ago, which just shows the level we're at because it seems a lot of people love wallowing in the misfortune of others.

underdog

Philly_Q said:

There's quite a lot of hypocrisy and holier-than-thou-ness (if that's a thing) about this.

Of course the programme is rubbish, but the people who appear (I've heard them referred to as "contestants" this week, bizarrely) are there of their own free will.  Nobody forces them to take those lie detector tests or DNA tests.  Many of them appear multiple times.  Many of them say how much they love "Jezza" and his show.  Few - if any - are genuinely upset by the test results, they just get angry and say the results must be wrong.

The former guests and audience members who've appeared the last couple of days saying how distressing and awful it was... why were they there?  As dispassionate scientific observers?  Or were they laughing and shouting like everyone else?

There's also something very patronising about all the outraged reaction, much of it from people who've never watched the programme, saying how it exploits the poor, vulnerable and disadvantaged.  Would they be so concerned if it was hosted by Germaine Greer, with a panel of Guardian readers discussing their relationship traumas?

I don't really care that they've axed the Jeremy Kyle Show.  The world won't be a worse place without it.  I just think it's pathetic the way all the media vultures and hyenas have gathered round, acting like they're all upholders of the highest moral and ethical standards.

Several people I beleive go on there just for the DNA test. What do they cost to have £300 to £400, a lot of people probably want to be sure a child is theirs and simply can not afford to pay to have it done.

Also I'd think people go in there with the impression they will get to give their side of a story, or maybe it's their last resort to get something to stop drinking/see their child/be allowed to see their child etc

JezWynd

proggy said:

Fuck! Bang goes my chance of 15 minutes of fame.

Don't worry. There'll be another one along shortly.