Bonamassa/Page tones

hubobulous

The Bonamassa thing I think can be achieved through a D-style pedal, given an extra push. I've had limited opportunities to try this given that I don't yet own that sort of pedal, but in a shop I've used a DMBL pedal, boosted with my Koko Boost and it was pretty nice.

matt1973

Bonamassa doesn't really use clean amps, they're all set pretty gainy. Usually it's these different levels of dirt that get pushed harder with the pedals shown in his many demos. So the pedals aren't actually imparting a great deal on the overall tone.

The best pointer I can give is the DSL hire rig he uses, which I believe is set clean with clipping provided by a Tubescreamer which, IIRC, is always on.

Regarding Page, maybe try a Herco pic? I am led to believe this accounts for much of how his articulation is picked up by the gear he uses.

57Deluxe

therose789 said:

Filth 

...glad to hear he hits Bum notes too!

therose789

57Deluxe said:

therose789 said:

Filth 

...glad to hear he hits Bum notes too!

He somehow makes it sound good! 

bigdawg

for pages tone you need to run a les paul through a cranked 60s (or the Retro model) orange or get this:

bigdawg

http://www.catalinbread.com/rah-features

RocknRollDave

therose789 said:

57Deluxe said:

therose789 said:

Filth 

...glad to hear he hits Bum notes too!

He somehow makes it sound good! 

Not so sure about that myself, but bless little Edge there, he's grinning like a kid in a sweet shop with a ten pound note!

xSkarloey

57Deluxe;301372" said:

therose789 sawid:



Filth 





...glad to hear he hits Bum notes too!

Pagey's made a career out of bum notes. All part of the fun!

I liked his 02 gig tone on that song off Presence, the one he played on a black lester.

What's it called? Y'know that really memorable track...

Dave_Mc

not_the_dj said:

I'm sure it's out of date, but here's your shopping list:

http://www.guitargeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/joe_bonamassa_guitar_rig_2010.jpg

They don't list the snazzy suits and sunglasses

ICBM

Skarloey said:

I liked his 02 gig tone on that song off Presence, the one he played on a black lester. 

His black Custom totally blows away the Standard for tone when he plays it. It was the same on the original Albert Hall recording. I've never understood why Standards are worth more than Customs… Customs almost always sound better, to me.

chrisj1602

ICBM said:

Skarloey said:

I liked his 02 gig tone on that song off Presence, the one he played on a black lester. 

His black Custom totally blows away the Standard for tone when he plays it. It was the same on the original Albert Hall recording. I've never understood why Standards are worth more than Customs… Customs almost always sound better, to me.

Agreed, I much prefer a Custom and I love the sound of Custom on the RAH gigs, as well as For Your Life at the O2.

xSkarloey

not_the_dj said:

I'm sure it's out of date, but here's your shopping list:

http://www.guitargeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/joe_bonamassa_guitar_rig_2010.jpg

That ain't Bonnamassa'a rig. It's Agent Smith out of the Matrix. 

I bet he plays fast. 

edit: going back to Pagey's tone with the Custom, I wonder if his reissue (the original RAH 1970 guitar was nicked) is all mahogany? I'm just wondering if that could be why it's a bit less trebly than his Standard tone? 

octatonic

p90fool said:

I can't say I see any similarity between those two.

Smooth, fuzzy, indistinct, and somehow distant versus spiky, clumsy, in-yer-face raggedness.

I don't think anyone makes a pedal for either of those, are you sure it's a gear issue at all and not just about musicians?

LOL.

I love it when folk so easily dismiss some of the best players to put finger to fret.

RocknRollDave

Aside from the actual rig, you want to be approaching your playing quite differently for the two styles.

In some ways, you might say Page really laid into his guitar ...although that's a bit misleading, as something like Since I've Been Loving You will attest...but all the same, for Bananaramassa you want to be much more in control of the strings, the vibrato, the attack.. Clearer, cleaner, more controlled.

Like it's THAT easy...lol.

octatonic

Joe's whole thing started with Eric Johnson.

He cops a lot of EJ's techniques, he grew up playing that stuff- plus a lot of other players of course, but his core approach is very much like EJ's.

ICBM

Skarloey said:

edit: going back to Pagey's tone with the Custom, I wonder if his reissue (the original RAH 1970 guitar was nicked) is all mahogany? I'm just wondering if that could be why it's a bit less trebly than his Standard tone? 

I would think so, since that model is. The guitarist in my band has the same model without the Bigsby.

It's not just that it's less trebly - it might be, although only slightly - the big difference is that it's fuller-sounding and more powerful. Just a much more authoritative tone - and that's even with the Bigsby on, which arguably reduces the sustain and punch a bit.

Basher

Skarloey said:

I liked his 02 gig tone on that song off Presence, the one he played on a black lester.

What's it called? Y'know that really memorable track...

For Your Life...

p90fool

octatonic;302321" said:

p90fool said:

I can't say I see any similarity between those two.



Smooth, fuzzy, indistinct, and somehow distant versus spiky, clumsy, in-yer-face raggedness.



I don't think anyone makes a pedal for either of those, are you sure it's a gear issue at all and not just about musicians?










LOL.I love it when folk so easily dismiss some of the best players to put finger to fret.

Not at all, I like both of them as players.

xSkarloey

@basher

Yes, For Your Life. The name came to me just after I've posted! 

I haven't seen or heard the whole 02 gig, but of what I've seen, that's one performance that I thought was spot on, especially Pagey. He's certainly got the old swagger on there. 

octatonic

p90fool said:

octatonic;302321" said:

LOL.I love it when folk so easily dismiss some of the best players to put finger to fret.

Not at all, I like both of them as players.

I'm just busting balls- I wasn't being serious.