Something I noticed since getting proper monitors@

PolarityMan

Is it possible that some speakers show greater timing detail than others? On the monitors that I just purchased from our very own @BluesyDave I noticed that I can hear timing discrepancies between the left/right channel on fast doubletracked parts far more easily than I could through my previous setup (which was a yamaha hifi amp and some monitor audio bookshelf speakers).

Makes me want to go back and retrack a bunch of my old reaper projects

monquixote

It may just be the additional clarity giving you better separation between the parts

spark240

Are you new monitors powered?

When I switched from speakers with a Hi fi amp to HS7's, I noticed a difference in clarity which I suppose could be perceived as timing,  , 

PolarityMan

Yep they're powered

randomhandclaps

It depends what exactly and how much timing details you notice but to an extent the answer is yes.  In tight percussive music like metal or dance the transient speed on the monitor can be really noticeable.  When people go on about the success of the NS10 for various reasons, one they often overlook is just how fast it responds and in doing so highlights every transient and timing detail more so than some bigger monitors.  It can become essential not just for key percussion like snares, but for compressor settings (especially release) on almost anything.

EDIT - Looking at what you bought, the KRKs have a fibre glass cone and as such are very tight, plus they are relatively small so the response will be more noticeable especially compared to bookshelf speakers.

BluesyDave

Glad you like em Buddy  

....even though they are creating a bit more work, lol.

Rocker

What you say @PolarityMan is exactly the reason monitors are rarely used for listening to music (for enjoyment). Monitors are very good at revealing faults in the playing and timing......

PolarityMan

randomhandclaps said:

It depends what exactly and how much timing details you notice but to an extent the answer is yes.  In tight percussive music like metal or dance the transient speed on the monitor can be really noticeable.  When people go on about the success of the NS10 for various reasons, one they often overlook is just how fast it responds and in doing so highlights every transient and timing detail more so than some bigger monitors.  It can become essential not just for key percussion like snares, but for compressor settings (especially release) on almost anything.

EDIT - Looking at what you bought, the KRKs have a fibre glass cone and as such are very tight, plus they are relatively small so the response will be more noticeable especially compared to bookshelf speakers.

Sounds like this what's going on, it's on tight fast palm mutes where I most notice it. I guess I should have played it tighter the first time round!

ecc83

The "speed" of any system, be it a speaker or a robot servo, simply depends on the passband of said system so if all speakers can "do" 50Hz to 20kHz say, they are equally "fast".

What better systems WILL have is better damping so that they stop quicker and do not "ring" thus not "smearing" the transient.

Passive speakers with high level crossovers will always be inferior to active, bi or tri amped speakers at any given price point.

And I know I am being contrary but! I really enjoy music on my Tannoy 5As...Mind you! Most of my listening is to Radio 3 HD.

Dave.

randomhandclaps

PolarityMan said:

it's on tight fast palm mutes where I most notice it.

Is it against programmed or real drums?

PolarityMan

this particular one is against programmed drums but its def the guitars because i solo'd them.