How many people don't own or use a tuner?

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  • I've been to gigs recently where the band has spent a minute or so between songs tuning guitars, with no chat and it really breaks the flow of the show.

    Demonstrates the inexperience of the musicians too unfortunately.
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  • Rowby1Rowby1 Frets: 291

    There's just no excuse for not being in tune.

    If you can't do it by ear either because your ear for pitch isn't up to it or because of background noise, buy a tuner!

    I have a reasonable ear so in a reasonably quiet environment I can tune by ear, no problem. But at a gig, with lots of background noise and not wanting to inflict my tuning noise on the audience, a tuners vital.

    I don't understand why so many players just don't bother.

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  • tbmtbm Frets: 339
    Was in a band with a guy once. Great lad. Didn't have a tuner. Used to take an A off me and tune from that. Was NEVER properly in tune. Used to drive me bananas. Me the drummer and bass player ended up buying him a tuner. If you're going to be playing with other people a tuner is essential. Even if you've perfect pitch you'll be doing well to pick out your E string during a noisey song.
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  • stevebrumstevebrum Frets: 3221
    I'll just leave this here...

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  • Rowby1Rowby1 Frets: 291
    The other guitarist in my old band didn't use a pedal tuner, but had a welll-setup PRS that very rarely drifted out of tune, and it sounded fine. 

    Conversely, I've seen plenty of guys with tuners who still manage to play out of tune.

    Key thing is being in tune, and often a tuner allows you to do that in a noisy bar in the space of a few seconds. For that, they're priceless.
    I think buy a tuner (and learn how to use it) is probably the thing.
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  • I always used a tuning fork until I found myself in situations where I couldn't hear to tune up, or where you were expected to tune up off-stage before walking on, instead of walking on and then plugging in to tune up.

    tbh, I don't see the problem with tuning up on stage, orchestras do it. But someone else said to me the punters turn up to hear you play the music they don't pay to hear you tune up.
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  • mike_lmike_l Frets: 5663
    Most people don't even own a guitar.

    poor bastards.

    Ringleader of the Cambridge cartel, pedal champ and king of the dirt boxes (down to 21) 

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  • mike_lmike_l Frets: 5663

    I carry a Korg plug-in tuner to Jam nights, I know my guitars stay in tune pretty well anyway. So for a 3-song set no problems.

    On the board (when I can be arsed to put it back together) or if I ever gig (not likely anytime soon) I have a Boss TU-3 which would be on the board, No Question about it.

    Ringleader of the Cambridge cartel, pedal champ and king of the dirt boxes (down to 21) 

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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 26261
    "Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone."
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  • Our bassist doesn't have a tuner, just seems content that if he tunes it at home it will stay in tune. Which it does seem to; worries me though!
    I feel the warm, healing, liquid presence of God’s genuine cold-filtered grace. 
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  • BloodEagleBloodEagle Frets: 2593
    If you need a tuner to tell you that you're out of tune youve got bigger problems than need addressing
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  • If you need a tuner to tell you that you're out of tune youve got bigger problems than need addressing
    In a band context with bass and keys and another guitar I can often hear that something is out of tune but not 100% sure what. I know it's not the keys so a tuner is there to give me reassurance it's not me ( well, ok it might be but it's about 90% certain it's our singer's guitar). 
    I feel the warm, healing, liquid presence of God’s genuine cold-filtered grace. 
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  • SassafrasSassafras Frets: 10548
    If you need a tuner to tell you that you're out of tune youve got bigger problems than need addressing


    I prefer a tuner to tell me I'm in tune.
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  • monquixotemonquixote Frets: 8009
    Always use one at gigs, but never at home. 

    I've got decent guitars that stay in tune and I can get to within a few cents of concert by ear so I don't see the need.
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  • crunchmancrunchman Frets: 2681
    The other benefit of a tuner is that you get used to being in tune so then you hear it when it's a bit off.  When I was younger, I was playing guitars that were rarely properly in tune, and I didn't know any better.  When I got a tuner, I got used to hearing an in tune guitar, and now hear when something is off where I wouldn't have in the past.
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  • I use a Korg Pitchblack and my Blackstar has an in-built tuner for redundancy. 
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  • We don't use tuners since we tune by ear to the synths - which is just as well because they are a bit out of tune.
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  • p90foolp90fool Frets: 5433
    We don't use tuners since we tune by ear to the synths - which is just as well because they are a bit out of tune.
    You can calibrate most tuners, A doesn't have to equal 440.

    If you're tuning to a synth which is not quite at concert pitch you may as well set your tuner to the same pitch, so you can tune silently in advance.
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  • p90foolp90fool Frets: 5433
    If you need a tuner to tell you that you're out of tune youve got bigger problems than need addressing
    What if your job involves being in tune and ready to go on a silent, darkened stage?

    I'm perfectly capable of telling whether my guitar is in tune or not, but only if I'm allowed to hear it.
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  • koss59koss59 Frets: 478
    If someone is paying you to play then you should not tune out loud unless you are a folk musician or in an Orchestra.
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  • Philly_QPhilly_Q Frets: 3294

    I can't really see why anyone who plays live would not have a tuner. 

    It's not as if they're hugely expensive or some kind of massive inconvenience.  Stick one on your pedalboard, if you don't have a pedalboard get one of those clip-on things.  Insisting on not having one just seems like Luddism.

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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 26261
    Philly_Q said:

    I can't really see why anyone who plays live would not have a tuner. 

    It's not as if they're hugely expensive or some kind of massive inconvenience.  Stick one on your pedalboard, if you don't have a pedalboard get one of those clip-on things.  Insisting on not having one just seems like Luddism.

    It depends what you mean by 'playing live'. If I do an open mic I prefer not to use a tuner. I find it more irritating watching someone staring at a tuner for twenty or thirty seconds while no sound comes out than it is to hear a quick check of the guitar by ear, which is much more useful to let people know why you haven't started yet :).
    "Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone."
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  • Philly_QPhilly_Q Frets: 3294
    ^  Yes, if it's an environment where you can actually hear the guitar easily enough and there's nothing else to hold the audience's attention, I guess that makes sense!
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  • SassafrasSassafras Frets: 10548
    Jimi Hendrix used to tune up at his gigs.
    I've heard him, it didn't take him long and the crowd didn't seem to mind. Certainly no-one walked out in disgust.
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  • GuyBodenGuyBoden Frets: 463
    edited August 2015
    Thinking back, many bands played out of tune for years in the 1970's, nobody seemed to care that much. Just listen to some of the old Rolling Stones live gigs, they're way out man.

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  • ICBMICBM Frets: 26261
    edited August 2015
    Philly_Q said:
    ^  Yes, if it's an environment where you can actually hear the guitar easily enough and there's nothing else to hold the audience's attention, I guess that makes sense!
    Yes, it's very much horses for courses. I wouldn't ever try to play a proper gig where the house system has been blasting 'background' music until five seconds before you're on without one, nor a professional gig (eg a wedding) where you're supposed to be providing the entertainment rather than being the focus of the show yourself.

    For most other things it's more about being in tune than how you get there though! I like a bit of interaction and distraction, and hearing musicians tune - as long as they do it in a way that doesn't involve twanging away interminably on the same note - can be part of the 'performance' too. Of course the trick then is to use a tuner but not mute the guitar if you don't want to :).

    As usual ;) I don't disagree that most guitarists can benefit from a tuner - in fact I own several - I just slightly disagree that they're always a requirement, and I do sometimes purposely prefer to use other methods. I even don't *always* mind if someone is a bit out of tune, sometimes it doesn't really matter that much. Live music isn't always about perfection.
    "Take these three items, some WD-40, a vise grip, and a roll of duct tape. Any man worth his salt can fix almost any problem with this stuff alone."
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  • p90fool said:
    We don't use tuners since we tune by ear to the synths - which is just as well because they are a bit out of tune.
    You can calibrate most tuners, A doesn't have to equal 440.

    If you're tuning to a synth which is not quite at concert pitch you may as well set your tuner to the same pitch, so you can tune silently in advance.
    Yes, that is a good suggestion.
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  • Being of the repair man persuasion I have has a very accurate Seiko tuner for years for setting up intonation. I now use a Korg Pitchblack live ... and at home for practice as it lives on my pedal board. No excuse for being out of tune these days.
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  • axisusaxisus Frets: 8514
    JezWynd said:
    Best musical invention in the past 50 years.
    After the g string
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  • RockerRocker Frets: 2145
    edited August 2015
    Surprised that there is a discussion about tuners! Every guitar player should be able to guarantee that his guitar is in tune. Full stop. I had a pub/wedding band in the 1970s. And I depped in other bands too. Tuning guitars was more hit and miss back then even though I used the harmonics method [shown to me by one of the Showbands guitarist], not perfect as it involved string comparisons. The chances of two guitars being perfectly tuned was slight, three guitars virtually nil. So if you don't have an electronic tuner, get one. And use it every time you pick up a guitar to play.
    Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. [Albert Einstein]

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